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Typical Emp disinformation we created bin laden to an extent yes but the small matter omitted was at the time we were are the height of the cold war and Russia had invaded Afghanistan so at that time to arm the rebels was extremely sensible. Of course go forward 30 years and it might not have been sensible although we will never know had Russia succeeded the outcome might have been different. We were doing the right thing for the right motives at that moment but that's the trouble with time you only know the past and present never the future and with international conflicts untended consequences are always the risk. But with Emp its not complicated its simple it's the fault of the west no matter what things are complicated to me , they aren't to u..everything is black and white. the west are doing the right thing ? when the hell has the west ever done the right thing? the west is not the people its the capitalism ideology that in reality is protectionism not capitalism and will stop at nothing to make money. You don't know your history Stan, the afghans had a long history of secularism and socialist govts..before the russians invaded the west was funding madrasses in near by pakistan .stoking up fundementalism so as to topple the socialist govt, when the govt was on its knees then the russians came in to prop it up.. u need to read more seriously
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and as to why latin america isn't attacking america, well the people of america can only be thankful that the south american people are such great people. They got it even worse from the US than the people in the middle east. Latin america got them out , have largely turned socialist and want nothing to do with US policy. Fair play to them, I wish the middle east countries did the same.
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In case you hadn't noticed I am not condoning ISIS I think they are scum of the earth, what I am doing is explaining the rise of ISIS and the clearly outlining the best way to deal with the region so that ISIS and others like them can't grow. We have created ISIS and we can start fixing the middle east by supporting the 2 state solution that the UN assembly has already agreed and by putting pressure on our "friends" the radical sunnies that are funding ISIS. The west has a long history of supporting radical islam, from funding Madrasass in Pakistan,to setting up Bin Ladens army, to flying that army into serbia to stoke the fires in the balkans to Israel funding Hamas to spread division. We the West are the problem, ISIS are just the manifestation of our policies. We turned Iraq into hell, and invented this Sunni,Shia civil war - of which we are on the Sunni sides. So we the west support ISIS You are condoning Isis what you are saying in effect is they are blameless and all the fault lies with the west you cherry pick history and ignore other things to support your argument which is the west are evil. By definition the monsters of Isis are blameless victims in your world. Still we wait explanation from you of why Islamic terrorism is all over the world with countries nothing whatsoever to do with American policy or why they persecute innocents from other religions or women or gay people eh duh! I have never condoned ISIS, I have repeatedly stated that they are the obvious Scum of the earth. I have also stated that Islamic states actions in all parts of the world are their own insane targets. Its the origins of ISIS and how to make the middle east a harder breeding ground for groups like this that I am getting at. I.E the Wests capitalistic murdering crusade which is the cause of most of todays worlds problems. You wanna spout of daily mail type racist propaganda but you as per usual have no reference to the our own responsibility because you have a typical imperialistic attitude . You are condoning them by blaming the west for creating them therefore taking the blame off them. And I think you need to stop throwing the racist abuse around. Nothing Stan has said is racist just not how you see it. Sorry you need to be a half wit to think I am condoning them, I called them evil scum of the earth! and stan is a complete racist, he calls out the evils in others but refuses to look at his own peoples crimes..thats racist. plus stan has history. look at who he supports (tories,israel)and who he hates(mandela)
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Sorry you need to be a half wit to think I am condoning them, I called them evil scum of the earth! and stan is a complete racist, he calls out the evils in others but refuses to look at his own peoples crimes..thats racist. plus stan has history. look at who he supports (tories,israel)and who he hates(mandela)
There seems to be only one half wit around here and as usual it seems to be you. By justifying their existence you condone them. Simple as. It's as simple as Stan being a racist to you just because he has a different view. I suppose you'll do that to everyone that doesn't agree? I supported and still do the Tories so I suppose I'm a racist too? Fukking stupid!
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Roman,Viking,Norman,Tory...
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love 
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I like spicy food and Chinese so I've covered all the bases.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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I was hoping the scousers might win out sixties  Hopefully save us girls.maybe not though?
Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love
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You wont be allowed in restuarants apathy will get you us know where i gueuss if you dont care and dont like bacon allswell Paranoia will destroy ye
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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I'm just kidding you on sixties but I do value your opinion and you may have something there? Its all going global and itl be what itl be I'm afraid,survival of the fittest and all that. I imagine us women could be the first to suffer as do women in other countries around this world today,that's present though,not future. 
Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love
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