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Bb You so are the daily mail, you have no answers at all. If you are so worried about muslims in our culture then you should be all for making the middle east a better place for these people to live in. Talking about rapes, your own Govt was/is a child sex ring, with ur beloved maggie knowing about it and sweeping it under the table, even now the police mysteriously lost all the files relating to it.
There is answers, and you know it, if there was a two state solution ,which everyone bar the US and Israel want, then the whole situation who start to diffuse. But no Stan you are just an evil pragmatic racist pig who points at the crimes of others but refuses to acknowledge our own crimes. The saudi's and other rich sunni countries fund ISIS and yet u are more than happy to prop up their GOVTs cause it makes business sense. Get some conviction Do you really think the attacks in Paris were about palastine ? Your mad, this is a war a global war the problems of islamification are the same the world over from Australia to Canada to the UK to France and the whole of Europe. The reasons are complex but solve them we must or our civilisations will perish. What is happening in Sweden today will be Britain in a few decades. we could change foreign policy to whatever you want it to emp tommorrow this problem will move not one inch. It's not just about the gun it's also about changing the culture of western societies and eventually running them. As for the child rapes the allegations against ex government ministers are without evidence but even if they were true they don't justify the industrial scale child abuse that went on in dozens of British towns for over 20 years with the authorities too scared to act The attacks in Paris are a direct result of the Wests foreign policy in the middle east, the Palestinian problem being a major component of that. That is blatantly manifestly obvious, any sane person should be able to join the dots on that one. Propaganda daily mail hate that u spout leads us nowhere. Yes the muslim communities have problems but we have our own guilt too, without evidence? cause the evidence was lost and the govt is hardly going to expose itself as a child sex/murder ring which it looks increasingly likely that it is. We all have a history and culture of sex offences against the vulnerable and we all have to face up to them. islam is never going to change western values and ideas, we had the renaissance and enlightenment and civil rights period, that is who we are..scare mongering about islam intentions is pathetic. Again I repeat if we change our foreign policy in the middle east , most of our major problems will disappear. Our do you think our policies in the middle east are fine? France backs a 2 state solution and the only country backing Israel is the US because of Jewish lobby there. You are mad to claim that France was attacked because of Palestine, that's total BullS. What about those who attacked Mumbai, did they do it because of Palestine as well. Europe taking migrants is just going to make it worse. By the way, those fkers are doing it because they think they will have an express ticket to the paradise filled with virgins
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You so are the daily mail, you have no answers at all. If you are so worried about muslims in our culture then you should be all for making the middle east a better place for these people to live in. Talking about rapes, your own Govt was/is a child sex ring, with ur beloved maggie knowing about it and sweeping it under the table, even now the police mysteriously lost all the files relating to it.
There is answers, and you know it, if there was a two state solution ,which everyone bar the US and Israel want, then the whole situation who start to diffuse. But no Stan you are just an evil pragmatic racist pig who points at the crimes of others but refuses to acknowledge our own crimes. The saudi's and other rich sunni countries fund ISIS and yet u are more than happy to prop up their GOVTs cause it makes business sense. Get some conviction wow strong statement calling somebody an evil pragmatic racial pig how dare you have an opposition view Stan to many people use that racist word far to much makes me sick to the back teeth
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Doesn't worry me red emp is a crackpot everything is to do with palastine in fact getting beat by palace somewhere along the line will be to do with palastine I am sure. Islamic state throw gays off cliffs torture and brutally murder Shia Muslims Christians simply for who they are they enslave women and rape children on an industrial scale what has any of that got to do with American foreign policy ? Could it be they are just murdering physcopaths ? Another matter if everything was to do with American foreign policy then logically you would expect the bulk of the attacks to be against America but america is no more or less under attack then any other western country. Sweden and Norway have been attacked they are completely neutral how does that work ? Please explain o knowledgable one
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Doesn't worry me red emp is a crackpot everything is to do with palastine in fact getting beat by palace somewhere along the line will be to do with palastine I am sure. Islamic state throw gays off cliffs torture and brutally murder Shia Muslims Christians simply for who they are they enslave women and rape children on an industrial scale what has any of that got to do with American foreign policy ? Could it be they are just murdering physcopaths ? Another matter if everything was to do with American foreign policy then logically you would expect the bulk of the attacks to be against America but america is no more or less under attack then any other western country. Sweden and Norway have been attacked they are completely neutral how does that work ? Please explain o knowledgable one That they definitely are and if you do it in the name of a religious believe the zombies follow. No matter what anyone's believe system, who or what they believe in or what their opinion is - violence and hatred can never satisfy that void/obedience/religious belief. Why don't they attack China or Iran - because they know they will be irradiated the minute they do. Fvcken bunch of cowards these ISIS / ISIL @ssholes. Easy to shoot at and kill or bomb people if they can't defend themselves hey?
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In case you hadn't noticed I am not condoning ISIS I think they are scum of the earth, what I am doing is explaining the rise of ISIS and the clearly outlining the best way to deal with the region so that ISIS and others like them can't grow. We have created ISIS and we can start fixing the middle east by supporting the 2 state solution that the UN assembly has already agreed and by putting pressure on our "friends" the radical sunnies that are funding ISIS. The west has a long history of supporting radical islam, from funding Madrasass in Pakistan,to setting up Bin Ladens army, to flying that army into serbia to stoke the fires in the balkans to Israel funding Hamas to spread division. We the West are the problem, ISIS are just the manifestation of our policies. We turned Iraq into hell, and invented this Sunni,Shia civil war - of which we are on the Sunni sides. So we the west support ISIS
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In case you hadn't noticed I am not condoning ISIS I think they are scum of the earth, what I am doing is explaining the rise of ISIS and the clearly outlining the best way to deal with the region so that ISIS and others like them can't grow. We have created ISIS and we can start fixing the middle east by supporting the 2 state solution that the UN assembly has already agreed and by putting pressure on our "friends" the radical sunnies that are funding ISIS. The west has a long history of supporting radical islam, from funding Madrasass in Pakistan,to setting up Bin Ladens army, to flying that army into serbia to stoke the fires in the balkans to Israel funding Hamas to spread division. We the West are the problem, ISIS are just the manifestation of our policies. We turned Iraq into hell, and invented this Sunni,Shia civil war - of which we are on the Sunni sides. So we the west support ISIS As I said earlier, I won't be surprised if you joined ISIS.
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I really want to stay out of this thread but that's a load of bollox Vish.
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In case you hadn't noticed I am not condoning ISIS I think they are scum of the earth, what I am doing is explaining the rise of ISIS and the clearly outlining the best way to deal with the region so that ISIS and others like them can't grow. We have created ISIS and we can start fixing the middle east by supporting the 2 state solution that the UN assembly has already agreed and by putting pressure on our "friends" the radical sunnies that are funding ISIS. The west has a long history of supporting radical islam, from funding Madrasass in Pakistan,to setting up Bin Ladens army, to flying that army into serbia to stoke the fires in the balkans to Israel funding Hamas to spread division. We the West are the problem, ISIS are just the manifestation of our policies. We turned Iraq into hell, and invented this Sunni,Shia civil war - of which we are on the Sunni sides. So we the west support ISIS You are condoning Isis what you are saying in effect is they are blameless and all the fault lies with the west you cherry pick history and ignore other things to support your argument which is the west are evil. By definition the monsters of Isis are blameless victims in your world. Still we wait explanation from you of why Islamic terrorism is all over the world with countries nothing whatsoever to do with American policy or why they persecute innocents from other religions or women or gay people
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I really want to stay out of this thread but that's a load of bollox Vish. I ask myself how normal guys get convinced to join ISIS type organisations, but somebody saying that it's normal to kill innocent people in Europe as long as it is tit for tat makes me wonder.
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In case you hadn't noticed I am not condoning ISIS I think they are scum of the earth, what I am doing is explaining the rise of ISIS and the clearly outlining the best way to deal with the region so that ISIS and others like them can't grow. We have created ISIS and we can start fixing the middle east by supporting the 2 state solution that the UN assembly has already agreed and by putting pressure on our "friends" the radical sunnies that are funding ISIS. The west has a long history of supporting radical islam, from funding Madrasass in Pakistan,to setting up Bin Ladens army, to flying that army into serbia to stoke the fires in the balkans to Israel funding Hamas to spread division. We the West are the problem, ISIS are just the manifestation of our policies. We turned Iraq into hell, and invented this Sunni,Shia civil war - of which we are on the Sunni sides. So we the west support ISIS You are condoning Isis what you are saying in effect is they are blameless and all the fault lies with the west you cherry pick history and ignore other things to support your argument which is the west are evil. By definition the monsters of Isis are blameless victims in your world. Still we wait explanation from you of why Islamic terrorism is all over the world with countries nothing whatsoever to do with American policy or why they persecute innocents from other religions or women or gay people eh duh! I have never condoned ISIS, I have repeatedly stated that they are the obvious Scum of the earth. I have also stated that Islamic states actions in all parts of the world are their own insane targets. Its the origins of ISIS and how to make the middle east a harder breeding ground for groups like this that I am getting at. I.E the Wests capitalistic murdering crusade which is the cause of most of todays worlds problems. You wanna spout of daily mail type racist propaganda but you as per usual have no reference to the our own responsibility because you have a typical imperialistic attitude .
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