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Originally Posted By: EMP
Ah u see Iran used to be a democracy you see but UK and USA didn't like that so overthrew the most progressive and secular govt and installed a tyrant instead. This is our history and this is why iran is now run by mullahs. Even so Iran has been becoming more and more moderate in the last 10yrs and yet we have nutjobs like netanyahu foaming at the mouth saying he wants to bomb them, and the US congress cheering him on to.

Our policies in the middle east need to be re-aligned with world opinion ,when it is the middle east will recover and we won't have young muslims running amok in our cities.. that is the only and right solution to this mess that we created.

What you say is all correct EMP, but you might as well try telling all those indoctrinated innocents that the USA, Britannia and the coalition of the willing went to war in Iraq to stop them adopting the euro as an oil currency and in order to get public opinion behind them, they invented the Weapons of Mass Destruction...it's the truth, but do you think they'd ever believe it? They only believe what they're told by their establishment media.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Regardless of religion or who has done what in the past, this was a cowardly act by a bunch of utter cvnts! I'm just glad they're all dead as it's nothing less than they deserve for indiscriminately shooting innocent people, un-armed people. If they had any balls they'd rock up to an army base and try that shitte and see what they get!


Isis has released a video saying they will attack Russia good luck with that boys i hope there is an alliance with America and Russia and they vapourise the lot of them


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Ah indoctrination by the establishment media always a good catch all to label those with whom you share a different opinion


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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Regardless of religion or who has done what in the past, this was a cowardly act by a bunch of utter cvnts! I'm just glad they're all dead as it's nothing less than they deserve for indiscriminately shooting innocent people, un-armed people. If they had any balls they'd rock up to an army base and try that shitte and see what they get!


Isis has released a video saying they will attack Russia good luck with that boys i hope there is an alliance with America and Russia and they vapourise the lot of them


Well the Russians won't fukk about like we do so I hope they're ready to poke that hornets nest!

And I think the whole world needs to come together to get rid of these cowards.

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World is doomed if we just going to become reactionary puppets to the world elite. They got there never ending war now.. destroy the middle east with state terrorism, support the religious zealots and then react to terrorism with some more of our own terrorism. Brilliant leaders we have, brilliant for the military industry and the oil companies that is.

There has been solutions to the middle east for as long as there has been problems..the solutions are voted in by the UN assembly every year and backed by the international criminal court - yet the west veto's these solutions every year because it would lose them money..that is the problem here not bombing and more bombing and more invading. Jesus we need a mandela or a gandi in the west so bad, fuckkking war mongers I am surrounded by.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Ah indoctrination by the establishment media always a good catch all to label those with whom you share a different opinion

Nice attempt to evade the main point in that post you're reacting to Stanley.
Do you agree that the Iraq war was an invasion to stop them from setting up an oil bursary to sell their oil in Euros instead of Dollars with a smaller amount sold in Sterling?

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Now having lived all my life in the middle east, I claim, with all due respect to everyone around here, that I know one or two things about this topic. You Westerners, after centuries of internal and external strife, have been able to make peace with each other and turn your attention to building your societies, and while some of you might not appreciate what you have, let me tell you that you've done a good job, even if western policy towards the middle east leaves a lot to be desired. However, you have made one grave error that could prove to be your downfall, and that is you underestimated the importance of preserving your national identities. You gave British passports to Pakistanis, made Algerians and Moroccans into French citizens, and millions of Turks suddenly became German. Well, it's not working, and you're finding it out the hard way. Even third generation can't integrate, and before anyone accuses me of being racist or something, feel free but I do not find it insulting to tell someone he's not British or French. I'm Lebanese and I wouldn't want to be called anything else. These people are no better or worse than you, they're just different with different values, and unfortunately enough of them are adopting extremist ideas -much of which is the responsibility of your own governments' bias and shortsightedness- to threaten your very existence as free people. They will use your democracy to claim what you made their rights by giving them your passports, they will hold their prayer meetings in the backyard of Westminster Abbey, they will go to Syria to chop off a few heads and come back as "poor" refugees, complete with their Armani's and i-phones, they will spread their mosques all over your land when it would be easier to build a church on Mars than one in Saudi Arabia, and when they see fit, they will take out their Kalashnikovs and hunt you down for fun. Now I'm not saying all muslims will do that, but unfortunately enough of them are, and to top it all off, you seriously think that you can make turkey one of your own. Well wake up before it's too late.

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You're racist enough to be the leader of the BNP.

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Originally Posted By: EMP
You're racist enough to be the leader of the BNP.
Thank you for this deep analysis of my post. I would appreciate it if you could point out which part is contradictory with facts.

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That's a good post imadk, but you miss the reason we gave away all those passports, we did it for cheap labour, and also to lessen the wages paid to home grown workers. Capital has no religion or nationality, it's all consuming (excuse the pun) interest is in profit, hence the movement towards globalisation. There are progressive elements in opening frontiers and in the mobility of labour, but those who are indoctrinated into supporting it are usually unconscious of either those positives or the real reason their elite overlords are promoting it, namely more profits. But you are right this insane persuit of profit will eventually destroy the very system and society that gave rise to it in the first place.

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