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Originally Posted By: welshredfan
Never been a fan, but I think the last few games have been the best he has ever played for us and he deserves his place. Still gives away too many unnecessary free kicks though.


Find me a DM who don't give away a lot of free kicks

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My post was in regards to Allen

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his one of my fav players. if all the players were as hard working and dedicated football would be a better place

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Playing as de facto captain since Klopp has come in. I have often maligned him and he was so close to leaving so fair play to the lad -really helping Sahko + Skrtel.


He is still our weak link but best DM we have, as we don't have any other. At least Klopp understands the value of a DM unlike his predesessor.

Weak link?? have you watched a game where he doesnt play? He has turned into a great player and after everything BR put him through i am surprised he is still here.


Of course he is a weak link, giving fouls away in dangerous positions, getting cards, not passing the ball well enough, not giving much in attack, never scores. But as I said, he is the best we've got in that position, and convinced that we will have somebody better in that area very soon.

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Most DM's give fouls away though vish. It's just part of what they do and not many true DM's score much either. I agree with the rest though.

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It's ironic that he is labelled again and again as 'giving away too many free kicks' yet had the best DM stats in the league prior to klopp even coming in!

He breaks up dangerous play and will always take bookings for the team it's part of the role that sadly too many (going by the comments) fail to understand well enough.

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Its not even those debatable attributes which have impressed me with lucas since klopp. He does give away too many unnecessary free kicks imo but he has got on the ball a whole lot more under Klopp and is klopps manager on the pitch atm

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Agree EMP, I guess his weakness is not having that initial powerhouse burst of speed that could see him catch opponents out after winning a ball and feeding it in turn to a Sturridge etc.

If Klopp can find us one we really will be looking tidier but he is putting in shift and some at the moment so fair play.


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Makelele, Viera, Keane, Mascherano, Hamman were all DMs who fouled a lot. Lucas' job is to break up attacks thus protecting the back 4, he will therefore foul quite a bit. It is a thankless and dirty job but it is vital. I wish people would be a little more tactical in thought to see this.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Most DM's give fouls away though vish. It's just part of what they do and not many true DM's score much either. I agree with the rest though.


Yes I agree but Lucas gives away a lot of unnecessary ones and is sloppy

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