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Sakho had a good game again though!

Can't see Lovren fighting his way into the starting XI again now, which I feel is rather good.

I thought most would've expected a reaction when Klopp came in from the payers as you get at most clubs when a change is made. I think we all know he's got to polish turd but the players are just doing shitte!

I thought Klopp looked clueless in his post match interview, He either couldn't see the problems or didn't want to blame the players publicly. Hope it's the latter.

None of our players want to take any responsibility. In the whole second half, I can't remember any of them trying to beat a man. The Rubin defence were never pulled out of position. None of our players were showing real intent, running off the ball, moving, dragging defenders wide, etc. Offensively, we must be one of the easiest teams to play against. Unbelievable, almost.

The only positive I could draw was the fitness and the willingness to crowd the opposition off the ball - but that won't unduly worry Southampton - who'd look at tonight and be longing to play us.

To what extent this is a hangover from Rodgers' coaching, is hard to say. My worry is that this is how it's going to be. We so miss the creativity of Suarez, Sterling and a fit Sturridge. We need another striker - I mean someone tricky, like Lacazette. Origi is not ready for the role.

I hope he took off Coutinho so as to keep him fresh. If he brought him off for any other reason, he's lost me. We needed to leave Coutinho on, pull off Skrts and bring on Benteke. That might have done something to improve matters. At this rate, I can see Coutinho considering his options.

Mm.

There are clearly quite a few of our players who are not ready for the task. Not just Origi.

By the way: Has anyone else the feeling all of our players are evolving into incarnations of Joe Allen?

They are just rolling the ball about aimlessly and sideways. No skills, no thrust, no guts offensively. They just are there filling a spot in the side.

Colour tone? Definitely grey!

Eventually the penny will drop with the starry eyed ones that a manager is as good as the players at his disposal. I would like to think that any of the last 4 managers including Klopp would have signed at least 2 or 3 half decent players out of the enormous number of players we've signed in their time, if they either we're given the money or the freedom to do so. As far as I'm concerned the buck stops with FSG for the scouting using the silly statistics approach and the committee for the state our squad is in quality wise, blaming the manager, regardless of who he is/was is a mugs game. Klopp will very likely discover that winning a two horse race twice out of seven is a totally different venture than trying to win the PL. If and when he fails, as he undoubtedly will unless there's there's a radical change of policy, or owners or both, it won't be his fault, but watch the "fans" on here clamouring for his head regardless.

Ha, ha, how many time is it now that we've said that before each window, and what was the result?

300m over 3 years, not too bad is it? Even 150 net is not that bad compared to most other teams.

150 net???

Surely not!

£ 16.5 M net in the last window

£ 36.7 M net during the 2014-15 season

£ 16.0 M net during the 2013-2014 season

That means a total of £ 69.2 M net over the last 5 windows if I'm not mistaken.

Oh, and it's about £ 200 M gross over that period of time aswell.