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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


that's a fair point. but that would be a very noble thing to do... putting his own reputation at steak for the sake of the club. If that was the case though, then you would think that he would also be the type to offer his resignation and turn down a severance package (like Advocat) when it became clear that the fans and the owners had lost faith. However, he didn't do the latter so i doubt that his motives for sticking around were so lofty.


The Liverpool job is still a massive one and not many would walk regardless of the situation. And the situation was one not of his making so why not hang around for your pay off? I know I would. He obviously thought he could make it work even if he didn't like it too much.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


What if he liked the set up? To be ready to take decisions alone needs a lot of self belief which comes with experience, something he hardly had, especially at a club with huge expectations. The job was simply too big for him at such an early stage of his career.


He might have liked it but reports suggest otherwise. And I don't expect he's lacking self confidence regardless of his managerial experience. He's a professional sportsmen and not many of them lack confidence in their ability (however limited) as if they did, they wouldn't have made it to be pro's.

The thing that annoys me, is the set up obviously hasn't worked yet it's only the manager that gets the boot. If reports are true and the committee is staying, it could cost us a very good manager and even if it doesn't, he could also fail under it as could anyone.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


What if he liked the set up? To be ready to take decisions alone needs a lot of self belief which comes with experience, something he hardly had, especially at a club with huge expectations. The job was simply too big for him at such an early stage of his career.


He might have liked it but reports suggest otherwise. And I don't expect he's lacking self confidence regardless of his managerial experience. He's a professional sportsmen and not many of them lack confidence in their ability (however limited) as if they did, they wouldn't have made it to be pro's.

The thing that annoys me, is the set up obviously hasn't worked yet it's only the manager that gets the boot. If reports are true and the committee is staying, it could cost us a very good manager and even if it doesn't, he could also fail under it as could anyone.


Which reports? I've just read speculations here and there, while Rodgers has always said he was happy with the transfer windows except once, when Dempsey was not signed. There was no committee when Borini and Allen were signed, players he knew well personally, so at least these cannot be denied as his own signings, would you say that this is the kind of players we needed for CL qualifications? When we signed Markovic, what did he say? LFC can attract top players thanks to the attractive football he has put in place. These are his own words and you will find similar things on Lallana, Mignolet, I'm sure.

I think undue blame is being put on people by those who are just speculating and taking the exception of Rodgers' second season as a norm.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


What if he liked the set up? To be ready to take decisions alone needs a lot of self belief which comes with experience, something he hardly had, especially at a club with huge expectations. The job was simply too big for him at such an early stage of his career.


He might have liked it but reports suggest otherwise. And I don't expect he's lacking self confidence regardless of his managerial experience. He's a professional sportsmen and not many of them lack confidence in their ability (however limited) as if they did, they wouldn't have made it to be pro's.

The thing that annoys me, is the set up obviously hasn't worked yet it's only the manager that gets the boot. If reports are true and the committee is staying, it could cost us a very good manager and even if it doesn't, he could also fail under it as could anyone.


Which reports? I've just read speculations here and there, while Rodgers has always said he was happy with the transfer windows except once, when Dempsey was not signed. There was no committee when Borini and Allen were signed, players he knew well personally, so at least these cannot be denied as his own signings, would you say that this is the kind of players we needed for CL qualifications? When we signed Markovic, what did he say? LFC can attract top players thanks to the attractive football he has put in place. These are his own words and you will find similar things on Lallana, Mignolet, I'm sure.

I think undue blame is being put on people by those who are just speculating and taking the exception of Rodgers' second season as a norm.


A couple of reports I read this week were saying as much. But it's all speculation as you say.

And I'm not trying to deflect all blame from Rodgers as some of the players he is supposed to have wanted are pretty pats too. But for him to get the boot and no one else from a flawed system stinks in my eyes and just shows more about how fukked up FSG are.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


What if he liked the set up? To be ready to take decisions alone needs a lot of self belief which comes with experience, something he hardly had, especially at a club with huge expectations. The job was simply too big for him at such an early stage of his career.


He might have liked it but reports suggest otherwise. And I don't expect he's lacking self confidence regardless of his managerial experience. He's a professional sportsmen and not many of them lack confidence in their ability (however limited) as if they did, they wouldn't have made it to be pro's.

The thing that annoys me, is the set up obviously hasn't worked yet it's only the manager that gets the boot. If reports are true and the committee is staying, it could cost us a very good manager and even if it doesn't, he could also fail under it as could anyone.


Which reports? I've just read speculations here and there, while Rodgers has always said he was happy with the transfer windows except once, when Dempsey was not signed. There was no committee when Borini and Allen were signed, players he knew well personally, so at least these cannot be denied as his own signings, would you say that this is the kind of players we needed for CL qualifications? When we signed Markovic, what did he say? LFC can attract top players thanks to the attractive football he has put in place. These are his own words and you will find similar things on Lallana, Mignolet, I'm sure.

I think undue blame is being put on people by those who are just speculating and taking the exception of Rodgers' second season as a norm.


Brendan had not set up his scouting team properly when Allen and Borini were signed, hence why they were players he had already worked with.

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser


Brendan had not set up his scouting team properly when Allen and Borini were signed, hence why they were players he had already worked with.


So? He knew then very well and thought wrongly that they were LFC standard, says it all. Are you saying he never followed players while he was at Swansea? By the way, which great unpolished diamond he bought once he had set his scouting team properly?

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Don't honestly know what's going on in this thread - but if you lot think you're being taken for a ride because the owners have employed Jurgen Klopp, then you need your heads read.

There's a lot of FSG bashing on this site, but they've always made money available for transfers, they've given the stadium a lick of paint and now by the looks of things, they've gone out and employed one of the worlds most sought after managers...

FSG OUT!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted By: Donut
Don't honestly know what's going on in this thread - but if you lot think you're being taken for a ride because the owners have employed Jurgen Klopp, then you need your heads read.

There's a lot of FSG bashing on this site, but they've always made money available for transfers, they've given the stadium a lick of paint and now by the looks of things, they've gone out and employed one of the worlds most sought after managers...

FSG OUT!!!!!!!!!


Nothing official on Klopp yet and part of our failure has been policies and committees set up by FSG. They needed to build a new stadium not just one stand too. They also employed our last manager which worked out well.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: Donut
Don't honestly know what's going on in this thread - but if you lot think you're being taken for a ride because the owners have employed Jurgen Klopp, then you need your heads read.

There's a lot of FSG bashing on this site, but they've always made money available for transfers, they've given the stadium a lick of paint and now by the looks of things, they've gone out and employed one of the worlds most sought after managers...

FSG OUT!!!!!!!!!


Nothing official on Klopp yet and part of our failure has been policies and committees set up by FSG. They needed to build a new stadium not just one stand too. They also employed our last manager which worked out well.


Like I said....

FSG OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whistle

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Well if they mess this Klopp deal up I'll personally go over to Boston and punch Henry in the face!

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