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#505783 05/10/15 07:12 AM
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Brendan has been set up to fail. They restricted the profile of the players he could sign, he didn't even have full control of some signings and they couldn't retain our best players.

Look at Moreno today he was dreadful. Brendan's first choice target was Bertrand.

He wanted Costa, we ended up eventually getting Balotelli.

He wanted Sanchez, we ended up getting a load of unproven players.

These examples might not have been FSG's fault but Brendan was palmed off with 3rd and 4th choice players, or players he didn't even particularly want in the first place.

Moreno (who was dreadful today), Aspas, Ilori, Markovic, Origi all committee chosen buys.

FSG made the right decision to sack Brendan because he couldn't make us successful. I think just about all managers would struggle with FSG's ways of working. All they're interested in is maximising profit.


Brendan played players out of position? He didn't even choose most of
them who played out position. Markovic at wingback. he didn't choose to sign him in the first place.

Top teams have top established players at their prime. We sell them and expect to overachieve. And in some cases can't even hold on to them past the age of 20.




Complete crap!!! You just can't argue that all our signings are bad players - or have become bad overnight. We have some very good players but we're not getting the best out of them - far from it. We look turgid no matter who is out on the field. We struggle to beat Carlisle and Sion and that's with full internationals on the pitch. We don't seem to know how to serve Benteke or use Firmino - and they are not bad players. At some point it has to come down to managing and coaching. We've tried a myriad of formations and combinations - and they all look very average. We've changed our whole defence this season - looks like the same one from last season. We've signed experienced midfielder - same result. We strengthened our entire striking core - still struggle to score.


We lost Suarez, Sterling, Gerrard and then Sturridge through injury. Coutinho chips in and Hendo does his best but we have never come near to replacing these three.

We've lost the core of our team and FSG would not allow Brendan to replace them with anything like similar quality.

Milner for Gerrard
Benteke/Balotelli for Suarez
Ibe/Markovic for Sterling


Replacing proven quality with potential. A recipe for disaster. Who are or these new kids going to learn off?

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser

We lost Suarez, Sterling, Gerrard and then Sturridge through injury. Coutinho chips in and Hendo does his best but we have never come near to replacing these three.

We've lost the core of our team and FSG would not allow Brendan to replace them with anything like similar quality.

Milner for Gerrard
Benteke/Balotelli for Suarez
Ibe/Markovic for Sterling


Replacing proven quality with potential. A recipe for disaster. Who are or these new kids going to learn off?




Suarez was leaving the season before, until we offered him a massive new deal. We should have already been looking for a new striker. Every football fan in the world knew he was going to leave the following season, he hated it here. - How can you replace one of the top 5 strikers in the world without spending 100m+ on a similar player. The only thing you can do is try and adapt and change systems, instead Brendan tried to play the same system with lesser quality players.

You honestly think we should have kept a 34/35 year old Gerrard in the team. He was offered a new deal, he didn't accept it as he didn't like the pay drop and bit part player role; which he has since denied. He hasn't been decent for at least 5 years. He's a massive negative influence on the team. Could you imagine what it would be like if he was still here. He would probably tell FSG to keep Brendan then recommend some no mark to be the next manager, whilst trying to get himself the top job. No thanks - Very easy to replace.

Sterling was always leaving, everyone predicted it here. Sterling and his agent at the time said he would have stayed if Brendan had been sacked, and they were stalling for months, hoping someone new was coming in. BR is massively to blame here, he completely mismanaged Sterling, then messed around with his position; playing him at wing back one week, then as a striker the next. BR stunted his development, used him as a scapegoat and generally shat on him. - Still with that being said, Markovic is more than an adequate replacement, what does Brendan do, oh yeah that's right ship him off on loan.

We lost the core of our team due to Brendan's jealousy and pig mindedness getting in the way - Kuyt, Reina, Agger. Carragher and Gerrard retiring, Suarez being a negative influence. Rodgers losing the dressing room.

Even looking at his transfer record, we brought in a holding midfielder in Sahin and Rodgers played him out of position, froze him out, until he eventually asked for his loan to be terminated, which then resulted in Klopp blasting Rodgers for getting it so wrong.

Replacing Charlie Adam with Joe Allen. Spending the whole Summer trying to get rid of Henderson, Downing, Cole, Adam, Carroll etc rather than working with the team.

Trying to sell Lucas for the last couple of seasons, despite him being the rock in our team. Playing his own signing Lovren ahead of Sakho, until FSG stepped in the other week and gave BR a bollocking and made him play Can and Sakho.

Going on a rant about how we've lost the Scouse in the team and how he wanted to bring that local feel back in to the team. Yet he was the one who sold - Shelvey, Spearing, Kelly, Coady, Robinson.

Getting rid of TC signings without giving them a chance - Aspas, Alberto, Balotelli, Markovic, etc.

Rodgers messed up at the very start of his reign here. They should have got rid of him after his calamity of a first season.

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Are you saying that our squad is as bad as Carlisle as we could only draw and at home? Are you saying that Villa was better than us in the FA cup semis last year? Are you saying that there are 9 clubs above us which can buy better players? Or are you saying that Rodgers was just a poor puppet in the hands of FSG?

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Brendan Rodgers will always be a Championship level manager at best.

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End of the day he has gone time to move on and rebuild

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Are you saying that our squad is as bad as Carlisle as we could only draw and at home? Are you saying that Villa was better than us in the FA cup semis last year? Are you saying that there are 9 clubs above us which can buy better players? Or are you saying that Rodgers was just a poor puppet in the hands of FSG?


You've just picked out examples to make him look bad like I could make up examples to make him look good (battering Arsenal, Utd, finishing 2nd and last season beating City, Spurs, battering Swansea).

The position in the table is irrelevant 8 games in. We are further down the where we want to finish but are only a couple wins away from top 4.

Brendan was setup to fail. I don't know why you trying to call someone who fought tooth and nail for us and give his all until the every end a puppet. He should be commended for battling it out and not jumping ship like Klopp or Ancelotti would do if things aren't going their way.

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser

He should be commended for battling it out and not jumping ship like Klopp or Ancelotti would do if things aren't going their way.


This is a presumptive statement and there is nothing to suggest this would happen. Nice to know your writing off potential new managers already despite loyally backing someone who is no longer in charge of your football club.

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser

Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Are you saying that our squad is as bad as Carlisle as we could only draw and at home? Are you saying that Villa was better than us in the FA cup semis last year? Are you saying that there are 9 clubs above us which can buy better players? Or are you saying that Rodgers was just a poor puppet in the hands of FSG?


You've just picked out examples to make him look bad like I could make up examples to make him look good (battering Arsenal, Utd, finishing 2nd and last season beating City, Spurs, battering Swansea).

The position in the table is irrelevant 8 games in. We are further down the where we want to finish but are only a couple wins away from top 4.

Brendan was setup to fail. I don't know why you trying to call someone who fought tooth and nail for us and give his all until the every end a puppet. He should be commended for battling it out and not jumping ship like Klopp or Ancelotti would do if things aren't going their way.


What did he battle out, I don't understand. If he fought tooth and nail, it would mean he got what he wanted, no? Otherwise it's OK to call him a puppet as he accepted what he was told to do as you wrote in your initial post. He looked good in that one season we finished 2nd, and that was nowhere consistent. Should Mark Hugues be hail as the greatest ever because his team beat us 6-1? I don't need to make Rodgers look bad, because it's so obvious to the big majority

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