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Donut #505160 02/10/15 10:27 AM
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It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.

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Originally Posted By: chesterville
It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.


He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved.

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Marco's been very quite for a long time. I wonder if he's seen the light yet ?

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: chesterville
It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.


He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved.


He had Suarez for 2 seasons, no, so why did we come 7th in his first season, a marginal improvement in the league and a disaster in the cups, so regression overall? Any manager can have a good season, Hodgson went to the Europa League final with Fulham, Pardew almost got Newcastle to CL qualifications, therefore, with a best in the world performance of Suarez in a particular season, even Rodgers can over perform.

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Originally Posted By: chesterville
It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.


He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved.


He had Suarez for 2 seasons, no, so why did we come 7th in his first season, a marginal improvement in the league and a disaster in the cups, so regression overall? Any manager can have a good season, Hodgson went to the Europa League final with Fulham, Pardew almost got Newcastle to CL qualifications, therefore, with a best in the world performance of Suarez in a particular season, even Rodgers can over perform.


Kenny also had Suarez for a season and a half and got nothing out of him didn't he?

Yes any manager or team can have a good season and Suarez played out of his skin that season but it's far too simplistic to say it was all because of that. No one thinks any less of Maureen, Pep etc. just because they've only managed with the best players.

That season we had Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard and Sterling all being brilliant most times they played. Rodgers was in charge of that team so has to be given credit for setting tem up to get the best out of it does he not? Just as he takes all the blame now.

Chester says he has no capacity for any league or cup which I think this disputes. That doesn't mean he should stay on now or is the right man for the job but to deny what we did that season or not give him credit for it is wrong.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: chesterville
It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.


He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved.


The season he came 2nd LFC leaked 50+ goals. Thats why they didnt win the league. He tried to score 9 past Crystal Palace and threw away a good lead.

BR does not have any idea how to fix defensive issues. He has no bottle for crunch matches and has proved that time and time again. We wont even discuss his European matches.

So even with great players who were scoring for fun wr could not win the league under BR.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: chesterville
It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.


He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved.


He had Suarez for 2 seasons, no, so why did we come 7th in his first season, a marginal improvement in the league and a disaster in the cups, so regression overall? Any manager can have a good season, Hodgson went to the Europa League final with Fulham, Pardew almost got Newcastle to CL qualifications, therefore, with a best in the world performance of Suarez in a particular season, even Rodgers can over perform.


Kenny also had Suarez for a season and a half and got nothing out of him didn't he?

Yes any manager or team can have a good season and Suarez played out of his skin that season but it's far too simplistic to say it was all because of that. No one thinks any less of Maureen, Pep etc. just because they've only managed with the best players.

That season we had Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard and Sterling all being brilliant most times they played. Rodgers was in charge of that team so has to be given credit for setting tem up to get the best out of it does he not? Just as he takes all the blame now.

Chester says he has no capacity for any league or cup which I think this disputes. That doesn't mean he should stay on now or is the right man for the job but to deny what we did that season or not give him credit for it is wrong.


Yes Kenny had Suarez for a season and a half, but it is not the same Suarez who took us to 2nd. In Kenny's days he was quite poor at finishing if you remember and we hit the post a number of times. In the season we came 2nd he was really at the very peak of his career and I even wondered then if he will be able to repeat that. Rodgers had one good season in his whole career, even Monk did better than him at Swansea, so it is more like an exeption to me. You don't judge a manager, or any other player for that matter based on one season, whether good or bad.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: chesterville
It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.

The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.

Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.

Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.

That is where we are.


He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved.


The season he came 2nd LFC leaked 50+ goals. Thats why they didnt win the league. He tried to score 9 past Crystal Palace and threw away a good lead.

BR does not have any idea how to fix defensive issues. He has no bottle for crunch matches and has proved that time and time again. We wont even discuss his European matches.

So even with great players who were scoring for fun wr could not win the league under BR.


That's just nonsense. You could pick any factor you like and say it was why we did;t win the league,:

Gerrard slipped over - that's why we didn't win the league
We conceded too many goals - that's why we didn't win the league
We didn't score enough goals - that's why we didn't win the league
Some key decisions went against us - that's why we didn't win the league
Suarez missed the first 6 games of the season - that's why we didn't win the league
Gerrard was past his best - that's why we didn't win the league
We had lengthy involvement in both cups - that's why we didn't win the league
Sterling's finishing was comical at times - that's why we didn't win the league
Not enough victories - that's why we didn't win the league


You cannot put it down to just 'one thing'.

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i think its time boys and girls. i'm not one to bash managers and show them disrespect but i just don't think its worked out for him in the end. wish him all the best


Am hoping FSG will act after Sunday regardless of the result.That`ll give them the international break to get Klopp or whoever in place.Enough of this farce now.

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i think its time boys and girls. i'm not one to bash managers and show them disrespect but i just don't think its worked out for him in the end. wish him all the best


Am hoping FSG will act after Sunday regardless of the result.That`ll give them the international break to get Klopp or whoever in place.Enough of this farce now.


Eh? if they haven't sacked him after our recent run of results, they are highly unlikely to sack him if he wins at Goodison! A defeat might just be enough to bring his reign to an end.

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