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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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I don't think it's appropriate for a player to demand a coaching role even if it is Gerrard. He has plenty of time to coach once he is finished playing. I don't think he'll have to start from the bottom, he'll probably come straight in as assistant manager in a couple of years


I think it is fair as he stayed with the club sort of forever. The club should have planned for that like United did with Giggs but I think Rodgers wouldn't have been comfortable with it, Gerrard had too much clout for him, he would have felt undermined.


The club made the right decision then. Even if BR isn't too popular at the moment, you can't have a manager feeling undermined just to keep 'Stevie Gee' happy.


A manager who can feel undermined by a player would be one having a weak character

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
gerrard has no coaching badges and expected to walk into a top coaching job even the managers seat after deciding to leave , loads of liverpool greats have left the club and not wanted a coaching job even if they had been offered one , yes maybe in the future he gets a chance fine , but to just believe he deserved a top coaching job , no dont believe that right and his timing of his article doesnt help either , if BR is sacked he is sacked if he turns it around he turns it around , gerrard mouthing off in the press doesnt help LFC .


So??? Everybody should stay silent or say all is fine then?

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: welshredfan
I don't think it's appropriate for a player to demand a coaching role even if it is Gerrard. He has plenty of time to coach once he is finished playing. I don't think he'll have to start from the bottom, he'll probably come straight in as assistant manager in a couple of years


I think it is fair as he stayed with the club sort of forever. The club should have planned for that like United did with Giggs but I think Rodgers wouldn't have been comfortable with it, Gerrard had too much clout for him, he would have felt undermined.


The club made the right decision then. Even if BR isn't too popular at the moment, you can't have a manager feeling undermined just to keep 'Stevie Gee' happy.


A manager who can feel undermined by a player would be one having a weak character


I wouldn't say so. Stevie will have the ear of the players more than Rodgers would. It'd be much easier for him to cause trouble than it would be for Rodgers to stop him, therefore undermining him. Doesn't mean he's weak at all only if he did nothing about it.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
gerrard has no coaching badges and expected to walk into a top coaching job even the managers seat after deciding to leave , loads of liverpool greats have left the club and not wanted a coaching job even if they had been offered one , yes maybe in the future he gets a chance fine , but to just believe he deserved a top coaching job , no dont believe that right and his timing of his article doesnt help either , if BR is sacked he is sacked if he turns it around he turns it around , gerrard mouthing off in the press doesnt help LFC .


So??? Everybody should stay silent or say all is fine then?


I wouldn't say it's helpful for him to be bringing this stuff out on the eve of a massive game against our biggest rival. I wouldn't have thought we need the distraction do you?

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He shouldn't be offered a coaching role in my opinion. He should start off helping the u21s or u18s or at a different club and then come in to shadow Brendan if he is good enough.

I'm sure Gerrard only said what he said as a way of spreading the word that he is interesting in getting into coaching.

Brendan has great character. He can decide for himself whether he wants him or not.


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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
gerrard has no coaching badges and expected to walk into a top coaching job even the managers seat after deciding to leave , loads of liverpool greats have left the club and not wanted a coaching job even if they had been offered one , yes maybe in the future he gets a chance fine , but to just believe he deserved a top coaching job , no dont believe that right and his timing of his article doesnt help either , if BR is sacked he is sacked if he turns it around he turns it around , gerrard mouthing off in the press doesnt help LFC .


So??? Everybody should stay silent or say all is fine then?


I wouldn't say it's helpful for him to be bringing this stuff out on the eve of a massive game against our biggest rival. I wouldn't have thought we need the distraction do you?


Distraction to whom? If the players and manager are going to get distracted with this then we are in deeper shiite I thought we were. About the coaching role, I would have loved SG to have what Giggs got as I don't think Giggs is much better than him at that and we even said a number 4 coaching role. Now if the manager thought he was not good for that, then fair enough, but he says he was offered this position once he said he was going. I really don't think the club treated him as he deserved to, but then, as SP said things are not the same anymore.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
gerrard has no coaching badges and expected to walk into a top coaching job even the managers seat after deciding to leave , loads of liverpool greats have left the club and not wanted a coaching job even if they had been offered one , yes maybe in the future he gets a chance fine , but to just believe he deserved a top coaching job , no dont believe that right and his timing of his article doesnt help either , if BR is sacked he is sacked if he turns it around he turns it around , gerrard mouthing off in the press doesnt help LFC .


So??? Everybody should stay silent or say all is fine then?
he wanted to leave so he made his decision and i believe there is a time and a place for this sort of stuff and its not now a day before liverpool play MUFC .

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: welshredfan
I don't think it's appropriate for a player to demand a coaching role even if it is Gerrard. He has plenty of time to coach once he is finished playing. I don't think he'll have to start from the bottom, he'll probably come straight in as assistant manager in a couple of years


I think it is fair as he stayed with the club sort of forever. The club should have planned for that like United did with Giggs but I think Rodgers wouldn't have been comfortable with it, Gerrard had too much clout for him, he would have felt undermined.


The club made the right decision then. Even if BR isn't too popular at the moment, you can't have a manager feeling undermined just to keep 'Stevie Gee' happy.


A manager who can feel undermined by a player would be one having a weak character
all manager do this sort of thing , dalglish did it with phil neal , souness did it with phil thompson, houllier got rid of roy evans and a few others he accused of being in a clique , benitez got rid of robbie fowler and pako .

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
gerrard has no coaching badges and expected to walk into a top coaching job even the managers seat after deciding to leave , loads of liverpool greats have left the club and not wanted a coaching job even if they had been offered one , yes maybe in the future he gets a chance fine , but to just believe he deserved a top coaching job , no dont believe that right and his timing of his article doesnt help either , if BR is sacked he is sacked if he turns it around he turns it around , gerrard mouthing off in the press doesnt help LFC .


So??? Everybody should stay silent or say all is fine then?


I wouldn't say it's helpful for him to be bringing this stuff out on the eve of a massive game against our biggest rival. I wouldn't have thought we need the distraction do you?


Distraction to whom? If the players and manager are going to get distracted with this then we are in deeper shiite I thought we were. About the coaching role, I would have loved SG to have what Giggs got as I don't think Giggs is much better than him at that and we even said a number 4 coaching role. Now if the manager thought he was not good for that, then fair enough, but he says he was offered this position once he said he was going. I really don't think the club treated him as he deserved to, but then, as SP said things are not the same anymore.


External matters can distract. Doesn't mean we're in the shitte if it does, just that they're all human. And how can you say he's as good as Giggs for a coach? He's been no where near to being a coach as far as I know so surely there's no way to tell as yet? At the moment, it would be a sentimental position which we don't need.

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I hope wen sg retires from playing

He joins Jose back room staff and learns as much as he can from a top quality manager ,

Then goes and managers a small club , wins a trophy or two and then becomes Lfc boss

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