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It's getting annoying how when we've just about knocked one bump on the head another one pops up almost immediately. Once the season starts we should be able to focus positively on the games but we always seem to have something rumbling in the background causing distraction.
Sticking just to BRs time (as other management teams were probably also guilty) he started by sidelining Andy Carroll if I remember correctly. I think we were extremely lucky to find an £18m buyer in those circumstances. I believe there were others he's treated in a strange way, more recent examples being Lambert, Borini and now Balotelli, Enrique etc. I don't understand this. Why antagonise players? In the end the club suffers as the player becomes demotivated, their sell on value takes a dive I suspect, the atmosphere in the club gets affected. etc.
I suggest we need to be more clever. Any player whilst still on the books should be treated positively. Even if we want to sell it should be done in a manner which doesn't affect squad morale. Can you imagine what poison Baloteli and Enrique could spread if their relationship with BR has broken down but they still stick around for the season?
To be fair to Brendan, you know absolutely nothing at all about how he manages people. Neither do I, or anyone else on here for that matter. The press/media prove, on an hourly basis, that they cannot be trusted in any shape or form. They are no longer in the business of delivering news or information - they exist to create stories that people may find interesting. "Facts" are rarely interesting enough to put in to print.
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It's getting annoying how when we've just about knocked one bump on the head another one pops up almost immediately. Once the season starts we should be able to focus positively on the games but we always seem to have something rumbling in the background causing distraction.
Sticking just to BRs time (as other management teams were probably also guilty) he started by sidelining Andy Carroll if I remember correctly. I think we were extremely lucky to find an £18m buyer in those circumstances. I believe there were others he's treated in a strange way, more recent examples being Lambert, Borini and now Balotelli, Enrique etc. I don't understand this. Why antagonise players? In the end the club suffers as the player becomes demotivated, their sell on value takes a dive I suspect, the atmosphere in the club gets affected. etc.
I suggest we need to be more clever. Any player whilst still on the books should be treated positively. Even if we want to sell it should be done in a manner which doesn't affect squad morale. Can you imagine what poison Baloteli and Enrique could spread if their relationship with BR has broken down but they still stick around for the season?
To be fair to Brendan, you know absolutely nothing at all about how he manages people. Neither do I, or anyone else on here for that matter. The press/media prove, on an hourly basis, that they cannot be trusted in any shape or form. They are no longer in the business of delivering news or information - they exist to create stories that people may find interesting. "Facts" are rarely interesting enough to put in to print. That said there are quite a few players bought for big sums who have not been even warming the bench. Unless buying Balotelli, Lambert and even Markovic was not his decision, if I was his boss he would have been sacked, especially because of Balotelli.
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BR is making a stand and fair play to him for doing it. He wants to show the world that this is his team from the signings to tactics to management. I guess his thinking is that if we succeed this season and win something then his methods will be justified and if it goes the other way then at least he went down his way and wasn't just the yes man people perceive him to be.
Whether it works or not, I'm happy this is the BR we have this year he seems more confident/ arrogant which are traits the best managers have. If he still had Balo, Borini and Enrique with the squad/ on the bench etc., he'd be crucified on here for being a softy and you all know it.
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To be fair to Brendan, you know absolutely nothing at all about how he manages people. Neither do I, or anyone else on here for that matter.
The press/media prove, on an hourly basis, that they cannot be trusted in any shape or form. They are no longer in the business of delivering news or information - they exist to create stories that people may find interesting. "Facts" are rarely interesting enough to put in to print.
On that logic, there's no point any of us having a view or commenting about any manager because none of us know any of them.  Even if we ignore the press spin, we can form opinions based on actions and results. E.g. the number of times Lmbert, Borini etc. were picked; the positions players are played in; Sterling being given a soft ride last season and BR not able to influence him at all it seems; BR continuing to state he had no issues with Sterling even though Sterling was insulting the club and the fans; Enrique recently complaining in the papers of being marginalised long with Balotelli and Borini.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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BR is making a stand and fair play to him for doing it. He wants to show the world that this is his team from the signings to tactics to management. I guess his thinking is that if we succeed this season and win something then his methods will be justified and if it goes the other way then at least he went down his way and wasn't just the yes man people perceive him to be.
Whether it works or not, I'm happy this is the BR we have this year he seems more confident/ arrogant which are traits the best managers have. If he still had Balo, Borini and Enrique with the squad/ on the bench etc., he'd be crucified on here for being a softy and you all know it. BRs job is not to prove to the world that he's the boss. Neither is LFC a vehicle for BR to try out 'his methods'. His primary responsibility is to take decisions in the best interests of the club. If he felt that he was having players forced on him and that it would not be good for 'his methods' then he should have resigned. I don't think we'd have called him soft for keeping Balo/Borini/Enrique in the squad. They ARE in the squad... and on the payroll. By all means make the available for transfer, but until they move on surely we should keep them onside, motivated etc., partly so that they are prepared to give 100% if called upon and partly in order not to affect their transfer value.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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BRs job is not to prove to the world that he's the boss. Neither is LFC a vehicle for BR to try out 'his methods'. His primary responsibility is to take decisions in the best interests of the club. If he felt that he was having players forced on him and that it would not be good for 'his methods' then he should have resigned.
I don't think we'd have called him soft for keeping Balo/Borini/Enrique in the squad. They ARE in the squad... and on the payroll. By all means make the available for transfer, but until they move on surely we should keep them onside, motivated etc., partly so that they are prepared to give 100% if called upon and partly in order not to affect their transfer value.
He was doing exactly the same bollox at Reading,luckily for them Madjeski saw him for what he was and sacked him after 6 months,where Brian Mcdermott took over and took them from relegation to the play offs.This extract was taken from an article written by a Reading supporters group.You`ll see the similarities. Rodgers was seen as the natural successor to Steve Coppell - young, dynamic, and, importantly, with previous links to the club, having both played and managed Reading's academy.
What he bought with him was some wonderful ideas and a book absolutely choc-full of meaningless football management speak.
Elliott is right in saying Reading was not the right club for him and his ideas, but that's not good enough reasoning.
I had a season ticket that year, every time I turned up to a game whatever randomly selected team he'd picked that day gave the impression they'd been introduced to each other about 20 minutes before kick-off.
No-one understood what to do, the football was sleep-inducing tedious and utterly ineffective.
The tactics seemed to be tippy-tappying the ball around, losing it, letting the opposition score, then repeating the process until finally having your first shot in the 87th minute.
It was awful.
Rodgers revolutionary tactics were lost on an admittedly limited group of players.
But I ask you, if you are eating a meal, and you realise it's disgusting, do you just blindly carry on eating it in the hope it gets better, or do you eat something else completely different?
Rodgers ploughed on and on, performances got worse and worse and the nonsense he was talking after games just got sillier and sillier.
Elliott is also overlooking the fact that when he was sacked, Reading were teetering above the relegation zone.
They did not give the impression of a team full of hunger for a relegation battle, more a team who really didn't have any idea what they were supposed to do at all.
It might have worked, Rodgers might have kept us up, but it didn't look very likely from where I was sitting.
But at Reading he would not change his ways, ever single fan in the ground could see what he was doing was not working, but he never changed it.
If he'd had three years, I think he might've got that group of players playing like his Swansea team, but unfortunately it didn't work like that, and I believe Mr Madejski was spot on in giving him the boot.
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