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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
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I don't even think lot of people are moaning here. I personally was not happy at all with our performance against a side which has just been promoted and has a budget of a 10th of ours. It didn't look like that at ANFIELD where they at least they matched us. I am saying we need to improve and fast else it's going to be another [oops] season. I can't see what's wrong with that unless if somebody feels that it was a good performance.

It's very nice to roll out pretty statistics on how Bournemouth have spent X compared to Liverpool.

Bournemouth haven't recently been promoted have they because I've only heard it mentioned probably about 20 times on here already?

We had too much quality for both opponents and we were not at out best. If we are only going to get better we're going to be on track for a good season under Brendan's leadership.



Originally Posted By: EastMan
Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment.


He inherited a better team, he didn't have to adhere to a strict model implemented by the owners. He seemed like he had total control of transfers. There was no Man City and top 4 was far less competitive. In the 08-09 season we had an exceptional team and failed to win the league.

All in all, Rafa did a decent job but he is not an automatic upgrade on Brendan.
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
I think the consensus was 10 games.


No, some of you on here we're taking great delight in saying we should judge Brendan over much less than 10 games and then sack him if he has a poor start (as a lot of you expected). Now it's 10 games? This dreadful start you were all expecting hasn't materialised and you are now forced to change the parameters.

Originally Posted By: Snakeye
The fact that we have been so easily overun by a promoted side and stoke is very worrying. The same cracks from last season are present. I am happy with 6 points and hopefully we make it 9 next week but we need one of the performances of the season to do so.


Clearly not a Liverpool supporter. Easily overrun? What game were you watching? We had more possession and they had 2 shots on target the whole game with barely a noticeable chance. If you want Klopp this badly I suggest you start supporting the team he takes over after his sabbatical (which won't be Liverpool).

Originally Posted By: KingoftheKop

The problem is, on here is that if you dare even whisper the slightest of criticisms you get a bunch of drama queens getting all bent out of shape & labeling you a doom & gloomer (I hate that expression). Please show me one post that even remotely resembles somebody acting like we lost 5 straight games & where do you get off calling people "fans" for not sharing your opinion. Win, lose or draw, fans are entitled to be pleased with or disappointed by the performances & this is a forum designed specifically for the expression of opinions.


A bit touchy? This dreadful start start to the season hasn't happened and the Klopp dream seems that bit further out of reach. This isn't about opinions at all. This is about fans upping their expectations every time Brendan makes progress. Changing the goalposts to portray Brendan in a negative light all the time


The difficult part of the season hasn't started yet and the first game is on Monday next. Nobody in the world thought that Bornemouth at home will be a difficult game, let's see what happens next because if there is not a major improvement, we will need to forget top 4 after only 10 games.


I thought Bornemouth at home would be difficult. They all are. People aren't giving them enough credit. They got promoted playing very very good football and will be no push over for anyone. That doesn't take away the fact that we were poor in that game. Things do need to improve but not beating Arsenal doesn't define our season.


I am 99% sure we will not beat Arsenal and hope a draw. Because of the 6 pts we've collected, losing to them away is not even a huge issue, but my worry is, as we were lucky to win against Bornemouth, if we do not improve significantly, we will not finish in the top 4. Our midfield looks weak, defense looked shaky against relatively poor CFs and we have not created many chances.

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It's 2 games in Vish. Playing our first game at home against a good footballing side who have their first trip to Anfield in the top flight. I think we were just a little nervous and dare not lose our first home game, especially against Bournemouth.

Rodgers also seems to have changed his approach a little in that he's trying to make us hard to beat, heard to score against. I know things need to improve to get anything against Arsenal but I bet you were also around 99% sure West Ham wouldn't win there either so you never know. Football is a funny old game.

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Nearly every team starting a campaign would take 7 points from 3 games all day. A draw at Arsenal where we play tight and try and nick a goal is a fantastic result and intelligent way to approach away fixtures against the top teams in the division.

IF it is true and BR has changed the way we approach some games then hat off too him as longs as the players can implement it. Chelsea have been masters at it over the years.

I am not happy with the performances but think the team and manager should get some leeway early on. 12 games should show us a lot more about the season.

Chill out guys and try to enjoy it, it's a lot easier than trying to guess where we are going after just 2 outings and a team with a lot of very young new faces trying to gel and develop smile

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Originally Posted By: Top4
Nearly every team starting a campaign would take 7 points from 3 games all day. A draw at Arsenal where we play tight and try and nick a goal is a fantastic result and intelligent way to approach away fixtures against the top teams in the division.

IF it is true and BR has changed the way we approach some games then hat off too him as longs as the players can implement it. Chelsea have been masters at it over the years.

I am not happy with the performances but think the team and manager should get some leeway early on. 12 games should show us a lot more about the season.

Chill out guys and try to enjoy it, it's a lot easier than trying to guess where we are going after just 2 outings and a team with a lot of very young new faces trying to gel and develop smile
hear hear great post mate .

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No! It'll be the end of the world and the end of our top 4 challenge if we don't beat Arsenal. Confidence will be shot and we'll never recover whistle

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
It's 2 games in Vish. Playing our first game at home against a good footballing side who have their first trip to Anfield in the top flight. I think we were just a little nervous and dare not lose our first home game, especially against Bournemouth.

Rodgers also seems to have changed his approach a little in that he's trying to make us hard to beat, heard to score against. I know things need to improve to get anything against Arsenal but I bet you were also around 99% sure West Ham wouldn't win there either so you never know. Football is a funny old game.


Nervous about playing Bournemouth.....at home??? Good job we're not in the CL then!

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
It's 2 games in Vish. Playing our first game at home against a good footballing side who have their first trip to Anfield in the top flight. I think we were just a little nervous and dare not lose our first home game, especially against Bournemouth.

Rodgers also seems to have changed his approach a little in that he's trying to make us hard to beat, heard to score against. I know things need to improve to get anything against Arsenal but I bet you were also around 99% sure West Ham wouldn't win there either so you never know. Football is a funny old game.


Nervous about playing Bournemouth.....at home??? Good job we're not in the CL then!


Not nervous about Bournemouth per se just about losing. It's a big thing to win / not lose your first home game of the season.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
No! It'll be the end of the world and the end of our top 4 challenge if we don't beat Arsenal. Confidence will be shot and we'll never recover whistle
no it wont be the end of the season in the real world , but in the world of koptalk it will be "the end is nigh" mass hysteria in the world of koptalk its sad but very true , i think liverpool will get a point at the arse , but liverpool have only won once at arsenal since the early 2000's when houllier was manager and titi camara score the next time was when dalglish was manager 2012 so its not a good ground for LFC , but i dont care what gets said back to me , but plenty on here want liverpool to lose just to say they were right instead of supporting the team .

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So what do you want to see on this forum faz thread after thread all saying everything is perfect and no dissenters from that position don't you feel that might be rather boring ? Opinions make the world go round that's pretty much why forums in general are successful people like to discuss and in the real world people can have different opinions if you are uncomfortable with that better to remain within your own thoughts otherwise you are going to get regularly wound up.


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