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Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment. Because they haven't so far... Because they have just let him spend a lot of money on players that a new manager might not want... Because they have just revamped the coaching team... Because he's performing exactly as they would have expected... As for the Rafa comment, spending less money.....that was 10 years ago!!! The money in football has sky rocketed so it is difficult to compare spend. Plus Arsenal & City are now far wealthier meaning we have much stronger competition than we did in the EPL back then.
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I don't even think lot of people are moaning here. I personally was not happy at all with our performance against a side which has just been promoted and has a budget of a 10th of ours. It didn't look like that at ANFIELD where they at least they matched us. I am saying we need to improve and fast else it's going to be another [oops] season. I can't see what's wrong with that unless if somebody feels that it was a good performance.
It's very nice to roll out pretty statistics on how Bournemouth have spent X compared to Liverpool. Bournemouth haven't recently been promoted have they because I've only heard it mentioned probably about 20 times on here already? We had too much quality for both opponents and we were not at out best. If we are only going to get better we're going to be on track for a good season under Brendan's leadership. Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment. He inherited a better team, he didn't have to adhere to a strict model implemented by the owners. He seemed like he had total control of transfers. There was no Man City and top 4 was far less competitive. In the 08-09 season we had an exceptional team and failed to win the league. All in all, Rafa did a decent job but he is not an automatic upgrade on Brendan. I think the consensus was 10 games. No, some of you on here we're taking great delight in saying we should judge Brendan over much less than 10 games and then sack him if he has a poor start (as a lot of you expected). Now it's 10 games? This dreadful start you were all expecting hasn't materialised and you are now forced to change the parameters. The fact that we have been so easily overun by a promoted side and stoke is very worrying. The same cracks from last season are present. I am happy with 6 points and hopefully we make it 9 next week but we need one of the performances of the season to do so. Clearly not a Liverpool supporter. Easily overrun? What game were you watching? We had more possession and they had 2 shots on target the whole game with barely a noticeable chance. If you want Klopp this badly I suggest you start supporting the team he takes over after his sabbatical (which won't be Liverpool).
The problem is, on here is that if you dare even whisper the slightest of criticisms you get a bunch of drama queens getting all bent out of shape & labeling you a doom & gloomer (I hate that expression). Please show me one post that even remotely resembles somebody acting like we lost 5 straight games & where do you get off calling people "fans" for not sharing your opinion. Win, lose or draw, fans are entitled to be pleased with or disappointed by the performances & this is a forum designed specifically for the expression of opinions. A bit touchy? This dreadful start start to the season hasn't happened and the Klopp dream seems that bit further out of reach. This isn't about opinions at all. This is about fans upping their expectations every time Brendan makes progress. Changing the goalposts to portray Brendan in a negative light all the time The difficult part of the season hasn't started yet and the first game is on Monday next. Nobody in the world thought that Bornemouth at home will be a difficult game, let's see what happens next because if there is not a major improvement, we will need to forget top 4 after only 10 games.
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One unreserved credit I give to Rodgers is that he is a great "build up" manager, kind of like Arsine at Arsenal, did a great job with several players, but now is the time to reap, can he do both? We will see
If Arsene couldn't regularly get CL he would've been fired, top 4 is a division onto itself, FSG got the club in the first place because they felt confident they could regularly stay in the top4, they simply can't sustain exclusion based on their model
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I think things will get rocky for a bit then BR will play Benteke and Sturridge up top and things will settle down for a race for 4th that we will miss out on but BR will keep his job due to benteke sturridge partnership.Then danny will get injured for a year next season and round and round we go.
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I don't even think lot of people are moaning here. I personally was not happy at all with our performance against a side which has just been promoted and has a budget of a 10th of ours. It didn't look like that at ANFIELD where they at least they matched us. I am saying we need to improve and fast else it's going to be another [oops] season. I can't see what's wrong with that unless if somebody feels that it was a good performance.
It's very nice to roll out pretty statistics on how Bournemouth have spent X compared to Liverpool. Bournemouth haven't recently been promoted have they because I've only heard it mentioned probably about 20 times on here already? We had too much quality for both opponents and we were not at out best. If we are only going to get better we're going to be on track for a good season under Brendan's leadership. Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment. He inherited a better team, he didn't have to adhere to a strict model implemented by the owners. He seemed like he had total control of transfers. There was no Man City and top 4 was far less competitive. In the 08-09 season we had an exceptional team and failed to win the league. All in all, Rafa did a decent job but he is not an automatic upgrade on Brendan. I think the consensus was 10 games. No, some of you on here we're taking great delight in saying we should judge Brendan over much less than 10 games and then sack him if he has a poor start (as a lot of you expected). Now it's 10 games? This dreadful start you were all expecting hasn't materialised and you are now forced to change the parameters. The fact that we have been so easily overun by a promoted side and stoke is very worrying. The same cracks from last season are present. I am happy with 6 points and hopefully we make it 9 next week but we need one of the performances of the season to do so. Clearly not a Liverpool supporter. Easily overrun? What game were you watching? We had more possession and they had 2 shots on target the whole game with barely a noticeable chance. If you want Klopp this badly I suggest you start supporting the team he takes over after his sabbatical (which won't be Liverpool).
The problem is, on here is that if you dare even whisper the slightest of criticisms you get a bunch of drama queens getting all bent out of shape & labeling you a doom & gloomer (I hate that expression). Please show me one post that even remotely resembles somebody acting like we lost 5 straight games & where do you get off calling people "fans" for not sharing your opinion. Win, lose or draw, fans are entitled to be pleased with or disappointed by the performances & this is a forum designed specifically for the expression of opinions. A bit touchy? This dreadful start start to the season hasn't happened and the Klopp dream seems that bit further out of reach. This isn't about opinions at all. This is about fans upping their expectations every time Brendan makes progress. Changing the goalposts to portray Brendan in a negative light all the time Seeing that you have all the answers could you kindly list all the players that the current coach has bought in and have continued their good form...Once you come to the realization of what the problem here is you might understand why most supporters are not happy 
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Seems to me Rodgers has changed tactics and made us hard to beat first and foremost. We are conceding very few chances, especially from open play. You have to give him credit for that, I didn't think he was capable. Full backs not bombing forward and completely ignoring their defensive duties like the last 3 years. Coutinho and Benteke look good, Henderson and Milner look solid in the middle. Our passing will improve I'm sure, but the main concern for me is the wide players. Once Firminio is in the team and hopefully Ibe settles in the team, I think we will be fine. Arsenal should be very interesting, I don't think we will win, but not the end of the world. If we put in another solid defensive performance it bodes well for the rest of the season. Keep it tight, Benteke should cause them big problems on set pieces, exactly the sort of player Arsenal struggle against.
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I don't even think lot of people are moaning here. I personally was not happy at all with our performance against a side which has just been promoted and has a budget of a 10th of ours. It didn't look like that at ANFIELD where they at least they matched us. I am saying we need to improve and fast else it's going to be another [oops] season. I can't see what's wrong with that unless if somebody feels that it was a good performance.
It's very nice to roll out pretty statistics on how Bournemouth have spent X compared to Liverpool. Bournemouth haven't recently been promoted have they because I've only heard it mentioned probably about 20 times on here already? We had too much quality for both opponents and we were not at out best. If we are only going to get better we're going to be on track for a good season under Brendan's leadership. Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment. He inherited a better team, he didn't have to adhere to a strict model implemented by the owners. He seemed like he had total control of transfers. There was no Man City and top 4 was far less competitive. In the 08-09 season we had an exceptional team and failed to win the league. All in all, Rafa did a decent job but he is not an automatic upgrade on Brendan. I think the consensus was 10 games. No, some of you on here we're taking great delight in saying we should judge Brendan over much less than 10 games and then sack him if he has a poor start (as a lot of you expected). Now it's 10 games? This dreadful start you were all expecting hasn't materialised and you are now forced to change the parameters. The fact that we have been so easily overun by a promoted side and stoke is very worrying. The same cracks from last season are present. I am happy with 6 points and hopefully we make it 9 next week but we need one of the performances of the season to do so. Clearly not a Liverpool supporter. Easily overrun? What game were you watching? We had more possession and they had 2 shots on target the whole game with barely a noticeable chance. If you want Klopp this badly I suggest you start supporting the team he takes over after his sabbatical (which won't be Liverpool).
The problem is, on here is that if you dare even whisper the slightest of criticisms you get a bunch of drama queens getting all bent out of shape & labeling you a doom & gloomer (I hate that expression). Please show me one post that even remotely resembles somebody acting like we lost 5 straight games & where do you get off calling people "fans" for not sharing your opinion. Win, lose or draw, fans are entitled to be pleased with or disappointed by the performances & this is a forum designed specifically for the expression of opinions. A bit touchy? This dreadful start start to the season hasn't happened and the Klopp dream seems that bit further out of reach. This isn't about opinions at all. This is about fans upping their expectations every time Brendan makes progress. Changing the goalposts to portray Brendan in a negative light all the time The difficult part of the season hasn't started yet and the first game is on Monday next. Nobody in the world thought that Bornemouth at home will be a difficult game, let's see what happens next because if there is not a major improvement, we will need to forget top 4 after only 10 games. I thought Bornemouth at home would be difficult. They all are. People aren't giving them enough credit. They got promoted playing very very good football and will be no push over for anyone. That doesn't take away the fact that we were poor in that game. Things do need to improve but not beating Arsenal doesn't define our season.
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I think there’s a way to go before we can reasonably predict either success or failure, there’s some gelling to be done and we have to see if Can is able to step up in midfield. Benteke and Firmino still have to find their feet in the front and both Lovern and Mig’s while both looking more solid, have more confidence building to do. If we can manage not to get beaten by Arsenal in our next game, I would see that as a milestone in our development and in confidence development. On the other hand a bad defeat by the gunners could be a bad setback for us, so I’m hoping Rodgers sets us up with an element of caution and try to catch them on the break as they still look dodgy at the back, despite signing the elegant P. C.
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It;s not just here though. If you take a look at the match thread on This Is Anfield as an example, it's a mirror of here, ok maybe without the tantrums, exaggerations, threats, lies, fights, drama, extreme positivity and extreme negativity but it's similar !!. Sounds boring 
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Seeing that you have all the answers could you kindly list all the players that the current coach has bought in and have continued their good form...Once you come to the realization of what the problem here is you might understand why most supporters are not happy No problem. Mignolet - can't be faulted Lovren - solid, two clean sheets Can - not up to speed yet but looks very promising in midlield Coutinho - stunning goal, our focal point Moreno - came on looked very lively and positive Lallana - neat touches, works and works, expect more attacking improvement Signings this summer: Benteke: goal, great all-round play Clyne: solid Gomez: very promising, did well against Walters Milner: oozes class, excellent workrate
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