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I won't hide here. I wanted him gone. But just because we won 2 games doesn't mean I have changed my mind. However I don't want us to start losing AND playing badly to bring about his demise.

He spouted some absolute nonsense after the match on Monday night and will need his players to play well when we are beaten because he is running out of things to say.

I am more Pro-Liverpool than Anti-BR and would hope that 99% on here are of that persuasion.

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I won't hide here. I wanted him gone. But just because we won 2 games doesn't mean I have changed my mind. However I don't want us to start losing AND playing badly to bring about his demise.

He spouted some absolute nonsense after the match on Monday night and will need his players to play well when we are beaten because he is running out of things to say.

I am more Pro-Liverpool than Anti-BR and would hope that 99% on here are of that persuasion.


I would be of a similar viewpoint.

I personally think he is in last chance saloon and there can be no excuses if we don't progress this season.

Liverpool FC comes first and hoping for the team to lose so that BR will be sacked is biting off your nose to spite your face. It makes no sense whatsoever.

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Originally Posted By: EastMan
2 games
6 points
clean sheets

Yet some act like we lost 5 games straight

I was one of those who wanted Rodgers replaced in the summer, he is still here but many changes were made, I still have my reservations but will at least wait to see how it all plays out, so far haven't seen anything alarming other than standard start of season sluggishness and we got full points despite of that.

Can we at least wait a bit and let the team have a reasonable run before coming to conclusions.


The problem is, on here is that if you dare even whisper the slightest of criticisms you get a bunch of drama queens getting all bent out of shape & labeling you a doom & gloomer (I hate that expression). Please show me one post that even remotely resembles somebody acting like we lost 5 straight games & where do you get off calling people "fans" for not sharing your opinion. Win, lose or draw, fans are entitled to be pleased with or disappointed by the performances & this is a forum designed specifically for the expression of opinions.


Excellent post that sums this place up perfectly at the moment.

We are all Liverpool fans and we are all delighted to have 6 points but neither performance has been impressive. Daring to mention that doesn't mean we want BR sacked or that we are in some way not real fans.

The pro Brendan brigade need to calm down and stop being so touchy.


As I've said many times, this works both ways. Anyone who dares be positive also gets shot down as quick as any 'doomer' and with as much gusto. Most in here though are very balanced in what they say with the obvious few exceptions.

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I don't see it as being in positive or negative silos I want liverpool to do well very well to win the title in fact that was what happened every year in my teens and early twenties so I get frustrated when it's not happening that might be construed as negative by younger fans who have never seen liverpool win a title realistically you have to be over 30 to have seen that unless you follow the club at primarily school. The performance on Monday I don't believe any liverpool fan should be ambivalent about but maybe that's me at fault


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I don't think I've seen anyone say that was a good performance and there's nothing wrong with constructive criticism. But there are some in here that are at either extreme and can't see any good or any bad.

One thing I will say is, watch this place explode after we get our first loss. The same old creatures will be out to tell us they were right etc. etc.

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I am more Pro-Liverpool than Anti-BR and would hope that 99% on here are of that persuasion.


^^This


And those who want BR sacked shouldn't worry, because without top 4 he will be sacked, simply because FSG can't afford missing out again, he got his players and a new staff, should things not come together their will be no other conclusions other than the need for a new manager

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I am more Pro-Liverpool than Anti-BR and would hope that 99% on here are of that persuasion.


^^This


And those who want BR sacked shouldn't worry, because without top 4 he will be sacked, simply because FSG can't afford missing out again, he got his players and a new staff, should things not come together their will be no other conclusions other than the need for a new manager


I'm not so sure they would sack him if we finished 5th. To get into the top 4 we would need to displace either of chelsea, utd, city or arsenal. That's a HUGE ask. The money that has been made available to BR in the last 2 summers has come largely from player sales (mainly suarez and sterling) and commercial income......so it's not as if FSG are out of pocket and need some kind of return. With the added TV money kicking in next year I would say we are financially comfortable to say the least. Top 4 must be the goal but they know that for it to be a sensible 'target' (ie, the with the manager's job on the line) they would need to invest a lot of their own money as well. And that doesn't look to be on their agenda.

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Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions

I don't even think lot of people are moaning here. I personally was not happy at all with our performance against a side which has just been promoted and has a budget of a 10th of ours. It didn't look like that at ANFIELD where they at least they matched us. I am saying we need to improve and fast else it's going to be another [oops] season. I can't see what's wrong with that unless if somebody feels that it was a good performance.

It's very nice to roll out pretty statistics on how Bournemouth have spent X compared to Liverpool.

Bournemouth haven't recently been promoted have they because I've only heard it mentioned probably about 20 times on here already?

We had too much quality for both opponents and we were not at out best. If we are only going to get better we're going to be on track for a good season under Brendan's leadership.



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Why wouldn't FSG sack Rodgers? He is not part owner of LiverpoolFC, they didn't spend 60 million on 2 expensive players to finish 4th, Rafa regularly got CL with spending 20m only once, so FSG know more can be done with less money than they spent and CL is the minimum for their investment.


He inherited a better team, he didn't have to adhere to a strict model implemented by the owners. He seemed like he had total control of transfers. There was no Man City and top 4 was far less competitive. In the 08-09 season we had an exceptional team and failed to win the league.

All in all, Rafa did a decent job but he is not an automatic upgrade on Brendan.
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I think the consensus was 10 games.


No, some of you on here we're taking great delight in saying we should judge Brendan over much less than 10 games and then sack him if he has a poor start (as a lot of you expected). Now it's 10 games? This dreadful start you were all expecting hasn't materialised and you are now forced to change the parameters.

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The fact that we have been so easily overun by a promoted side and stoke is very worrying. The same cracks from last season are present. I am happy with 6 points and hopefully we make it 9 next week but we need one of the performances of the season to do so.


Clearly not a Liverpool supporter. Easily overrun? What game were you watching? We had more possession and they had 2 shots on target the whole game with barely a noticeable chance. If you want Klopp this badly I suggest you start supporting the team he takes over after his sabbatical (which won't be Liverpool).

Originally Posted By: KingoftheKop

The problem is, on here is that if you dare even whisper the slightest of criticisms you get a bunch of drama queens getting all bent out of shape & labeling you a doom & gloomer (I hate that expression). Please show me one post that even remotely resembles somebody acting like we lost 5 straight games & where do you get off calling people "fans" for not sharing your opinion. Win, lose or draw, fans are entitled to be pleased with or disappointed by the performances & this is a forum designed specifically for the expression of opinions.


A bit touchy? This dreadful start start to the season hasn't happened and the Klopp dream seems that bit further out of reach. This isn't about opinions at all. This is about fans upping their expectations every time Brendan makes progress. Changing the goalposts to portray Brendan in a negative light all the time

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Touchy? What dreadful start to the season? What Klopp dream? Who's changing what goal posts? Which fans upping which expectations?

What the flying fuckk are you on about? And yes, it is all about opinions.

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