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It's getting annoying how when we've just about knocked one bump on the head another one pops up almost immediately. Once the season starts we should be able to focus positively on the games but we always seem to have something rumbling in the background causing distraction.

Sticking just to BRs time (as other management teams were probably also guilty) he started by sidelining Andy Carroll if I remember correctly. I think we were extremely lucky to find an £18m buyer in those circumstances. I believe there were others he's treated in a strange way, more recent examples being Lambert, Borini and now Balotelli, Enrique etc. I don't understand this. Why antagonise players? In the end the club suffers as the player becomes demotivated, their sell on value takes a dive I suspect, the atmosphere in the club gets affected. etc.

I suggest we need to be more clever. Any player whilst still on the books should be treated positively. Even if we want to sell it should be done in a manner which doesn't affect squad morale. Can you imagine what poison Baloteli and Enrique could spread if their relationship with BR has broken down but they still stick around for the season?

I understand your point but I see it the other way the squad is a close knit group if someone is not pulling their weight or are poor performers the other squad players see it. Players also respect discipline and a clear direction. Being nice to poor or lazy players would not improve morale. All the top managers today and in history were all ruthless even Bob Paisley who was a lovely man did not mess about with anyone giving less than one hundred per cent

Agree Stan. He tried the positive approach with Sterling and the holiday and where did that get him? Peoria also moaned about that when Sterling left saying Rodgers had been too soft on him so again it's damned if you do etc etc.

If you look at the players this has happened too, they are mainly players that Rafa brought to the squad, a lot of the Kings signing have also been shunted, the only exception being Henderson, but with that being said in Rodgers first month here he tried to offload Hendo to Fulham for half the price we paid for him. More recently it seems to be players that the committee bought that seem to be left out and kicked in the teeth.

It seems the problem is Rodgers doesn't rate anyone that he didn't buy and it causes a lot of problems behind the scenes. Whereas a world class manager would try to work with what he has rather than letting his ego get in the way.

One of Rodgers biggest problems is himself, his treatment of players is criminal and it hasn't let up since he got here, the bad thing is we would have won a lot more in the last 3 and a bit years of it wasn't for Rodgers ego getting in the way.

Fair points Stan, Wilks. Certainly if it's a case of a player with an attitude problem, not pulling their weight etc. they need to be dealt with fairly but sternly. I was one who felt we were too soft on Sterling.

But I'd say my point is more about players who just seem to fall out of favour because of form. I'm not aware about anything in the public domain about Borini, Enrique, Carroll having a bad attitude etc.

Balotelli is a special case. Everyone knew about him before he joined. We claimed to be fully prepared etc. I just don't see what marginalising him achieves. Whilst he's with us I suggest it's worth keeping him onside even though he may not get games.

I therefore think there is some truth in what Spice has said. In the case of Borini, he even turned on his own signing.

More bollox from you! Sakho, Borini, Lambert,Mario all bought under his reign.

His trying to sell Henderson was probably right at the time as he was an I we priced waste of space at that time. Nothing wrong there.

The others that he got rid of were not good enough anyway so no problem there.

And no world class manager would just accept the craps players he's inherited. What would you win doing that?

You just need to pull you're head out of your arse and be a bit more objective in what you say. You clearly have an agenda again st Rodgers and just make shitte up to suit it. It's beyond Boring!

A bit OTT there Wilks. Just because someone has a different view, doesn't make it shitte. Can't we just stick to debating the points being made? Some people have reached their conclusion about BR - it doesn't mean they have an agenda.

And no world class manager would just accept the craps players he's inherited. What would you win doing that? Rafa won the CL with a certain Djimi Traore in the side. We all love him now but I suspect many of us would have described him as 'crap' then.

I suggest that BR can still succeed with us but is still obviously learning many aspects... or should be learning.

Not ott at all. He posts the same shitte over and over. Bust ups, players not happy blah blah. He's a fukking wum of the highest order.

In the case of Enrique , Balotelli and Borini , if we cant sell or loan them out before the transfer window ends, BR needs to make the best of a bad situation .

Let them train with the main team , perhaps give them some game time in the Europa League , Capital One Cup . They may even perform who knows and the club may be able to get some decent money for them

Isolating them gives the media an opportunity to really make meal of it and it does affect the whole team

It seems that Sakho is falling into this category