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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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A decent showing in Europe (quarters or semis) would probably see us shoot back up in those rankings, don't really see how they're skewed though Wilks, and to drop from 1-55 in the space of 6 years is shocking no matter how you look at it.


What I meant by that is the teams mentioned, Apoel etc. usually qualify most years as there aren't many good teams in their leagues so they get some good coefficient. It's like the FIFA rankings and how teams that aren't that good (USA) get high up in them as they mainly play lowly opposition.


So what should our rank be then? Would it be OK then according to you? We won one game in Europe last season, that says a lot to me.


Our rank should be what it is based on the way the points are worked out. But these rankings can be deceptive and doesn't mean that Apoel or whoever are better than us just because they're higher in the rankings. Would you say that Wales are or have a better squad than Spain as an example from the FIFA rankings?


So what the rank should be according to you?

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Read what I said FFS! The ranking should be what it is based on the points system for European competition. My point is, that doesn't make us a bad team and worse than the likes of Apoel etc. who qualify year on year due to being in a poor league. Understand now??

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Nice one, Donut. These are cracking videos.

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Just gives a more grounded opinion as opposed to the madness that goes on in here. Granted The Redmen aren't to everybodies liking, but I quite like them myself..

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Read what I said FFS! The ranking should be what it is based on the points system for European competition. My point is, that doesn't make us a bad team and worse than the likes of Apoel etc. who qualify year on year due to being in a poor league. Understand now??


And my point is FFS that even without those teams our ranking will be crap, maybe not 55th but quite bad. We won one game in Europe last season and except for Real Madrid, non of the others were top team. You understand now or you would be all satisfied with what we have become?

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Going on last season alone, I can't believe we're not ranked lower in europe to be honest. What have we done in Europe for.... for how long now???

Going back to Raffa as far as I can tell..

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Read what I said FFS! The ranking should be what it is based on the points system for European competition. My point is, that doesn't make us a bad team and worse than the likes of Apoel etc. who qualify year on year due to being in a poor league. Understand now??


And my point is FFS that even without those teams our ranking will be crap, maybe not 55th but quite bad. We won one game in Europe last season and except for Real Madrid, non of the others were top team. You understand now or you would be all satisfied with what we have become?


Are you being deliberately slow? It was implied that we are a bad team because of our UEFA ranking. I'm pointing out that it doesn't mean that. Just that we've been poor in European comps of late. Is that clear enough for you?

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Read what I said FFS! The ranking should be what it is based on the points system for European competition. My point is, that doesn't make us a bad team and worse than the likes of Apoel etc. who qualify year on year due to being in a poor league. Understand now??


And my point is FFS that even without those teams our ranking will be crap, maybe not 55th but quite bad. We won one game in Europe last season and except for Real Madrid, non of the others were top team. You understand now or you would be all satisfied with what we have become?


Are you being deliberately slow? It was implied that we are a bad team because of our UEFA ranking. I'm pointing out that it doesn't mean that. Just that we've been poor in European comps of late. Is that clear enough for you?


I am starting to think that you are actually slow. Let's say that our true ranking is 25th (can't see us better given our performance lately in Eurooe) instead of 55th, that still bad for me, that's all.

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