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Big red Kop made a comment above that FSG are keeping the club ticking over just enough to keep fans slightly interested
That is it in a nutshell we are nothing now except an investment for a remote individual that can't even bring himself to watch the sport never mind the city the club and it's traditions
The investment is just enough to maintain interest of the customers notice I never said fans because that concept no longer exists in relation to Liverpool FC.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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FSG couldn't give a fukk what the fans want. As long as the money is still being made to the level they want, they'll change nothing. Very naive to think this. They have already sacked managers who looked like they were too far from getting 4th and they'll do the same again. That's how they will and have been keeping the club ticking over and keep new and old fans slightly interested. They have a strong vested interested in keeping Liverpool knocking on the door of 4th. If Rodgers looks too far, which he will, then they'll replace him at Season's end. ... so why keep hold of Brodge? Both KK and Hodgson stats are way better than BR's. Exactly. They had the perfect opportunity to get rid this summer and no one could have blamed them if they did. But they kept him, have backed him so that to me says that he is their man and is here for the long haul. We'd have to be relegation fodder for him to get sacked, simple as. I also don't think we need to be near top 4 for them to make what they want. The fans won't be happy but, as they've proved in the past, they couldn't give a toss what we think as long as we go to games, buy the merchandise and keep the profits coming in. Yes we will get more money the further up the league we get or if we get back into the ECL, but staying in the top 10 will not bankrupt us so why go that extra mile?
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It's also about return on investment yes you get more money for winning trophies and finishing higher up but you have to invest more and often the cost of investment exceeds the extra revenue it's called the marginal cost of investment in economics. I think it was mike Ashley the newcastle owner who had worked out something like 12th was the optimum financial position for the club so it's not just Liverpool FC who have worked this out at least mike Ashley was being honest
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If we had not witnessed the woeful finish to last season, I would say BR deserved one full season to get it right. But he is on notice and a if we are sitting mid table come next November (which is a likely bet) he will be shown the door, and rightly so.
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Well he's currently our manager and I'm supporting him, all I'd say is results will determine his fate as it determines all football managers fates. In the meantime all Liverpool fans should get behind the manager and the team. In any case our problems have much more to do with FSG and their policies than they have to do with Rodgers.
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Well I have supported Liverpool FC for 50 years and the day when we cant talk about the club good and bad is the time to pack in. And as for the notion a fan is always positive thats not true even in the glory days of the 70's I can assure you there was plenty of complaining going on all fans like a good whinge its part of life and part of football long may it continue exactly 50 years then you should know better , in my 38 years of going home and away and all over the world i have seen everything good , bad and indifferent ,life and death , but i will never predict failure or judgement days before a ball is kicked in anger So what? Should everybody be like you? You don't want to vote, so be it, why do you judge others?
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I think we all agree that team performances have to improve this season else either FSG or BR will probably have to go. When do you think we can say we have seen enough?
If we are not in the top 4 or at least 5th but not more than 4 points off 4th, I think he will be sacked in Dec.
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If we sell the club during the season then I think BR will be dumped like dirty bathwater even if we are 3rd or 4th.
If FSG stay then BR will stay in place, even if we are below 14th in the table.
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I don't mean our season is over if we lose but it will certainly show BR hasn't progressed nonsense .
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With the addition of this close season Faz, I will take a stab that he has probably been the most heavily backed mananger the club has ever had. Maybe with inflation Souness could top him (haven't looked it up) but I really am hoping that he has learnt and will deliver. He has also been privy to a very stable time in the club's history which is vitally important for success.
There are no excuses from game 1 and I really hope it works because if it doesn't and one speculates where we could have been with a top manager 4 years ago and this sort of backing/support and investment you'd want to puke in a bin.
We simply have to go out at Stoke and not lose. They will need sometime to bed in as a team and a few draws will buy that time, defeats though simply will not.
Last edited by Top4; 05/08/15 11:00 AM.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
George Washington
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