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"If you want to give all the credit to ONE person for
bringing us titles in the last couple of years,
Give it to Gerard and not to Rafa"

Bari did you write this?^^^^^ if so why did we not win the European cup before rafa arrived then,seeing that gerrard was here already(5 years) just curious like

the whole team deserves credit for istanbul. so does geraed houllier. the person who deserves least credit is rafa

Yes I did write this
We didn't win before, because winning the Eurocup
Is not that easy even with "braveheart" Gerard
You can take Barcelona for example, they have
a brilliant coach, and a great squad and yet
they don't take the Eurocup every year
I think that winning the cup in Istanbul was mainly
because Gerard was at his prime that year (from the table stage till the finals) and we also had a lot of luck.
the fact that Rafa was present during Gerard's prime
does not in any way prove that it was thanks to him.
By simply watching those critical games, you can clearly see
that we won thanks to Gerard's heart and talent, and that there was no brilliant strategy present.

Istanbul was Rafa's making to a large extent and by that token this season too has been his making. Agreed, he did not have the powder to fire on all cylinders but to be out of the challenge for 4th is just bizarre considering the lofty guarantees that were being paraded around like free toffees...

"You can take Barcelona for example, they have
a brilliant coach, and a great squad and yet
they don't take the Eurocup every year"

But you said Rafa was a rubbish manager with rubbish players yet he won a final and got to the final the year after,so thats better then what Barcelona acheived?and they have a brilliant coach and great squad?

rafa is so great i think we should replace the liverbird on our badge with his face!

well said...absolute asset to this forum?

look rafa won us the cahmps league on his own. the fa cup. a super duper cup and a charity shield. not to mantion a league cup final and champs league final in which we lost both times.

what did shanks or paisly ever do?

Judging by how your grammar has gone out the window,looks like you need to sleep your beer off?Your mouthing off about violence&pitch invasions when you know how sensititve this club and its fans are on that for obvious reasons,c`mon mate think about it.