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i never said it was trepie. but i should imagine it is far harder to play in an intimidating atmosphere than a nice atmosphere

my point is that intimidation comes in many forms - fear intimidates your own players as well as the opposition, it makes them scared to misplace passes and so they become over cautious ....... with the backing of the crowd they feel they can do anything ..... that is why Shanks was so clever - he not just built the players into a belief that they were the best, he made the crowd believe the same and we are still clinging to it now while forgetting what made us the best ..... it is the getting behind the team even at 3-0 down at half time in the champions league final, it is that kind of backing that can make average players into world beaters ...... the intimidation is what breaks players, but your own players not the opposition

trepie you talk sense but not today!

have you ever played in front of a large crowd? intimidation is not scary - not for these cosseted 'superstars' they know everything is done to ensure their safety .... they couldn't give a toss if someone shouts abuse at them - i seem to remember beckham and winker both raised their game when people hurled more abuse and intimidation at them - they are worried about a vocal crowd supporting and cheering on the opposition though - that scares them because they know the team will be lifted and play above themselves and they could get a hiding ..... we need to support our team not abuse the opposition

it bothered cantona, someone called him a french [oops] and he got banned for months!

he was already sent off at the time so hardly relevant - he got sent off for losing his temper and never calmed down .... completely different scenario to the support that carried the team through a game against st etienne that has gone down in football folklore .... that is what we need - a roar of noise cheering on the team

i remember the 3-3 with man utd at anfield. it was cloughs first season with us and we were 3-0 down. he had a 50/50 ball and bottled out of the challenge. the fans went mad at him. they didnt cheer him on,he was verbally abused for shirking the tackle.

that rollocking made him realise what this game meant to us and he scored 2 quick goals to haul us back into the game!


that's when being nasty works!

that is a totally different thing to giving players abuse of the kind you should be ashamed of if your kids heard it ...... that is giving a player stick for not trying - not giving him abuse because there has been some bull in the papers

went to forest away when collymore made his return there playing for us. he got hammered. called every name under the sun. he lasted half the game before he was subbed!

collymore never tried anyway so what's your point?