KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Why we have not won the League in 25 years and Utd have.

I just read a post from another reds forum and it listed Liverpool Forwards that we bought over the years, last 15-20 years

Not entirely accurate but still, look at the forwards Utd signed compared to ours. Shocking

Us

Riedle
Dundee
Camara
Heskey
Barmby
Diouf
Baros
Pongolle
Cisse
Morientes
Crouch
Bellamy
Voronin
Babel
Keane
Ngog
Carroll
Borini
Aspas
Lambert
Ballotelli


Sucess
Torres
Suarez
Sturridge( up for debate because of injury)
Collymore
Could maybe put Crouch in there

Utd

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Eric Cantona
Andrew Cole
Teddy Sheringham
Dwight Yorke
Diego Forlan
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Louis Saha
Wayne Rooney
Henrik Larsson
Carlos Tevez
Dimitar Berbatov
Javier Hernandez
Robin Van Persie
Radamel Falcao

So why are we trying to sign a lump with so many questions hanging over him. It's so obvious what we need to do. A forward nearly won us the league last year. If we have to blow all our budget on the right forward then that is what we need to do.

Cos we're sh1t, next?

I think the OP has a lot in it. Regardless of the details of the comparison, the difference between having and not having quality strikers couldn't be more apparent than it is at LFC.

In essence, I agree with the idea that we need to buy the best strikers we can.

Lacazette plus one other top class striker would be my choice. If that's the only business we were to do this summer, it would be a better window than last summer's splurge of funds.

Goals win games. It's obvious, but to see the way the team was set up this year, you'd think possession of the ball was the entire objective.

The great liverpool teams had solid defence world class midfield and the best strikers the current set up has none of those.

Not having a striker adds a lot of pressure elsewhere. If you can't create a threat you are more vulnerable and that kind of pressure affects the whole team.

Yes, our midfield looks poor compared to SG, Masch and Alonso but we do need strikers as a priority above the other priorities, in my view.

Great Post. Interesting to really see the differences in quality and lack of. That being said, it does miss out all the duds Utd signed too.

For me, the signing of El-Hadj-Diouf over Nicolas Anelka is one of the most remarkable and significant turning points in the history of Liverpool FC. The latter (at his peak) was just beginning to inject some much-needed style, dynamism and entertainment into our performances before getting jacked off by Gerard Houllier who for some reason preferred a comparitively unknown quantity and a scumbag. I remember pictures of Diouf turning up at our ground over an hour late to sign his contract in a chrome-plated sports car and big smirk whilst thinking WTF??

I don't believe anyone was too surprised at his conduct on and off the pitch afterwards, nor his scoring rate which rivalled Ricky Lamberts! Luis Suarez is proof that one true world class player can drag a team from mediocrity to success, and if Anelka had signed instead maybe we would not have been forced to endure 25 years without an EPL title.

Unfortunately the rot has set in and as each year passes, expectation levels decrease.

Heskey, crouch, Bellamy an cisse should all be in the success pile. Evans wanted sheringham to partner fowler, but moores wouldn't stump up the cash. Falcao, forlan and Hernandez haven't been successes for Utd. Why not include our homegrown talent in there as well - fowler and Owen.

Quite a few of these in recent times shouldn't be on the list - balotelli, borini, aspas, Carroll as they weren't given a chance and had been completely mismanaged by Rodgers.

This is where this "strength in depth" things come into play too. In my personal opinion we seem focused at buying players in quantity rather than quality.

If we went out to buy players to improve the first team, then the players they replace would then be the strength in depth plus with the youth players to challenge them.

We just bought too many players last year and then Rodgers couldn't figure out the best team to accommodate them all.

The best teams seem to buy around 2 players in the transfer window, you look at what Spurs and Liverpool have done in the past transfer windows and we have screwed things up.

Poor player purchases is the tip of the iceberg. The bad decisions behind those poor purchases is the root of the problem. People in power who have poor football intelligence is most concerning for me.

It seems that for decades, managers and coaches and support staff and owners have relied on the dynasty of days past to endure by itself and they just were here for the ride, and the success would continue.

And here we are.