KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum mike gordon the real man with power at LFC

No not to some fans, to the league, to the world, to potential players, to Champions league qualifications, it IS the big picture, you try to find tiny little pockets of stats with no context that 'help' (they don't they make you look silly as many people have proven now) your unjustifiable argument.

I believe Sturridge and Cout were christmas signings I could be wrong, and it's well documented Coutinho was in place before Rodgers had a say in anything. So again, he's never had a good SUMMER transfer window. Always been catastrophic. Using allen to try and make him seem like he's done well is one of the most laughable things you've ever said, and that's saying something after the silly graph fiasco.

Man Utd weren't fortunate we had a bad start and end, they were better than us. End of. Nothing fortunate about it. They were better than us this year like we were better than them last year. So yes they did do well, no they aren't a laughing stock, yes they did get top 4, and there's nothing you've offered against that argument.

He was a nobody, and isn't a nobody right now because he's now been with us. This is like the time you demanded respect for your thread and people laughed at you. It's not a lack of respect it's a fact. AND it is relative, if a conference team signed Rodgers when we did it would have been a ridiculously good scalp for them, a Champions league chasing (wishing) team got him he's a relative nobody.

I do however agree with you he doesn't deserve such aggressive hate, he is performing to his best ability it's not like he's deliberately making so many mistakes and he had a hand in our great season last year. I said for most of this season it's pretty finely balanced in the 'is he that bad?' or 'is he good?' debate, but the thing that swings it is his catastrophic summer transfer windows year after year and only 1 good January transfer window (which isn't as bad as sometimes we have barely spent money here). In a club where we can't compete for top wages and fees, shrewd signings are more important than in the big 4, so we need a manager who can pull off great deal, attract good players, and has an eye for good players, but instead Rodgers is one of the worst the PL has seen at that in a big club. So that is why he needs to go for the benefit of the club, UNLESS a DoF comes in to take full control of transfers. Rodgers can't be trusted with a single penny.

Well they were quick enough to sack Hodge and Kenny, with which the buck shouldn’t have stopped if Gordon is running the show as stated in that article. So in my opinion that shows them to be using managers as puppets and scapegoats, and it shows them to be hypocrites, who are totally out of their depth, and don’t know what they’re at here.

Come ON! You know he was a known name. You know he is heavily respected by top managers, like Jose, the guy he worked under. You also know that his style of football while playing with a team of relative unknowns (at the time) won him huge plaudits in the league.

I do agree that if the club can get either of those names, he is likely gone but he wasn't a nobody, he just wasn't the big name of Houllier or Benitez that we'd got used to.

I think by saying my stats are non-contextual shows you really don't understand them or the benefit of them. Your loss, not mine.

If the big picture is year on year to you, you are one of so many happy to just run the rule after a single season, and it is that that is causing more problems than enough in football. You ask for respect for managers, then just remove them immediately. It isn't the clinicalness that causes clubs success, its the chancers. Often these clubs sack and move on so quickly until they find someone that hits the ground running. Once that wears off, its another merry-go-round. For all the ones that succeed, many fail and cost fortunes to correct. You can't really believe the big picture is limited to the end of season review. THAT is a joke.

Allen is heavily under-valued. He is no Xavi, but he is a good player. Not every window has been catastrophic. Not every signing is or has been. We've been on the back of a pretty bad one for people contributing immediately, but that is all.

They were better than us, of course, they made the CL spot we missed out on. Does that mean they can't still be fortunate? Come on. THINK.

I have spoken about how ludicrous the NOBODY suggestion is. Though I find it difficult to see how you can say he is one of the worst PL managers at big clubs attracting players. WE have signed good talent, and he is no different to Houllier and Benitez in suffering post-title chasing let-down syndrome. Benitez went 2nd to 7th, and Houllier 5th.... speaks a lot of how much this club demands than what his problems are.

On paper, the club is the 8th most valuable in Europe, and has rocketed from $704m to $982m in a year, with $100m more revenue per year. Some of that, of course, is CL football, but it is still a huge increase.

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Jose calls him his friend and also said he taught him a lesson last year when Chelsea came to beat us at Anfield. Yes he probably respects him as a person, but not as a great manager. Don't know who respects him as a great manager. Anyway, what's your graph showing now, why don't you want to share?

Understanding the stats you use better than you do doesn't mean I lose out, it means I (as many many other people have) get to have a laugh at your expense.

I never said the big picture is year on year so already, another irrelevant and desperately scrambling point from you. Again I don't ask for respect then just remove them immediately, so another desperate lie on your part which AGAIN shows how little you have to back up your argument. Lots of people have made the point against you so I don't need to reinforce it home any further, you can just read what they wrote to you about that.

His summer transfer windows have been catastrophic that's why we missed out on a relatively easy top 4 despite outspending almost everyone. This is based on years at the club and over 200+ million spent. Nothing to do with "sacking managers immediately".

You have gassed on about the nobody suggestion without speaking much sense or logic. So again, he was a relative nobody when he came to us. You have chosen to or can't find anything to dispute that point. He is one of the worst managers in the PL at picking good signings to take us to the next level is the point, not at "attracting players" though he isn't particularly good at that either. Why? Oh yeah because he was a relative nobody when he came to us.

This week.......


Brodge won't be there....


He's guna get sacked....via ..txt

All his pocket money.