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Right imagine if we are on the FSG committee deciding on the past season results and BR tenure as manager.
Try to think as if you a real member if the committee and not a Liverpool fan, you have to carry out a impartial review, consider your key points for or against the season.
I would express disappointment at going out of our cup competitions to Basel, Besiktas and Aston Villa.
League position if we finish 5th or lower would be unacceptable.
I would take on board the managers claim that we have lost 52goals from Suarez and Sturridge this season but I would also remind the board that the manager signed Lambert and Balotelli and prefered to play a winger upfront to both of them.
I would listen to fellow members who would remind us that we finished 2nd and nearly won the title the previous season.
I would state that is down to 1 player Suarez, members may claim it was down to the managers tactics, if so then utilizing similar tactics I would ask for clarification on the matter of our low numbers of goals this year especially with Lambert who was at the top of the goal scoring charts the previous season.
I would be happy with income from players sales, especially if a 50 million offer for Sterling materializes and with the 75million from Suarez.
Further good news would be the departure of high earning players from the wage bill, Gerrard and Johnson.
I would recommend we talk to Klopp to sound him out and replace BR with Klopp, he has achievement success on a shoestring at Dortmund.
I would not recommend talking to Rafa, due to his media outbursts vs Hicks and Gillett and the previous owners at Valencia when he was manager.
If Klopp was not available I would recommend keeping BR but giving him a maximum budget of 45 million.
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Right imagine if we are on the FSG committee deciding on the past season results and BR tenure as manager.
Try to think as if you a real member if the committee and not a Liverpool fan, you have to carry out a impartial review, consider your key points for or against the season.
I would express disappointment at going out of our cup competitions to Basel, Besiktas and Aston Villa.
League position if we finish 5th or lower would be unacceptable.
I would take on board the managers claim that we have lost 52goals from Suarez and Sturridge this season but I would also remind the board that the manager signed Lambert and Balotelli and prefered to play a winger upfront to both of them.
I would listen to fellow members who would remind us that we finished 2nd and nearly won the title the previous season.
I would state that is down to 1 player Suarez, members may claim it was down to the managers tactics, if so then utilizing similar tactics I would ask for clarification on the matter of our low numbers of goals this year especially with Lambert who was at the top of the goal scoring charts the previous season.
I would be happy with income from players sales, especially if a 50 million offer for Sterling materializes and with the 75million from Suarez.
Further good news would be the departure of high earning players from the wage bill, Gerrard and Johnson.
I would recommend we talk to Klopp to sound him out and replace BR with Klopp, he has achievement success on a shoestring at Dortmund.
I would not recommend talking to Rafa, due to his media outbursts vs Hicks and Gillett and the previous owners at Valencia when he was manager.
If Klopp was not available I would recommend keeping BR but giving him a maximum budget of 45 million. Did Rodgers sign Balotelli? its sounds to me that he was pushed on him. He stated that he did not want him so I do not know where you are getting that from. You also state that Suarez nearly one us the league last year. So Van persie won the league for utd a couple of seasons ago, Costa and hazard won it for chelsea. Good players win you stuff , nothing new there. The manager does not kick the ball on the pitch.....
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I would ask why did he sign Lambert and Lovern(sounds like there were Rodgers signings) I would also be asking why we were so poor in europe. I probably would not be asking about Markovic and Moreno as they are Rodgers/committee signing for the future.
If i was FSG i would consider this.
1. Would Klopp have performed better in Europe this year
2. On Rodgers signings (Lovern, Lambert who else??) Would Klopp have signed better
3. I would ask myself would Klopp have performed better in the league this year without Suarez and sturridge
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It comes down to money, the rest is a side show. Can he be trusted to spend anymore money and improve an appalling success to failure ratio?
The odds do not favour it, so the club cannot move forward. Klopp has to be persuaded to take the job and the committee either disbanded or negotiation with Klopp made, until a solution is found to this.
A year from now we will be here again otherwise and United, Arsenal, City and Chelsea totally out of reach.
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I'm not as down-trodden about our chances next year with BR, but sticking to the thread...
I would consider two domestic cup semi's as decent, and disappointment more at the Europa league fall-out than the CL.
I would question the liability in the team when we get to big games and can't perform (something that has become more common than the end of season last year).
I would raise concerns at 5th place if we finish there, but I'd see reassurances in the results we've had since Christmas.
I would remind the board that missing out on a prime target to replace Suarez in the first team was a notable problem, and that most of the signings have taken much longer to settle than expected. I'd relay information on the team once they've settled, and how results have changed.
I would consider the striking problem, note how BR signed, with the TC, Balotelli and Lambert, and Borini was his early signing too. That being said, Lambert nearly left for profit, Borini should have, and Balotelli has struggled playing in the system and can still leave for decent money.
I would draw attention to the way in which BR has been able to relieve high earners from the entire club within three seasons, while managing to build a bigger, more capable squad, with depth, than the one inherited.
I would draw attention to the form of the club, excluding two half season bedding in periods with major player changes, to be in line with CL qualifications and a title challenge.
I would NEVER suggest sounding out a manager without sacking the manager first, and to my belief, I think he deserves the opening half of the season to prove he is on track to get back in the CL, otherwise, I would consider alternate targets and begin the process of looking for replacements, without approaching any, ahead of either quick change or at the end of next season.
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Right imagine if we are on the FSG committee deciding on the past season results and BR tenure as manager.
Try to think as if you a real member if the committee and not a Liverpool fan, you have to carry out a impartial review, consider your key points for or against the season.
I would express disappointment at going out of our cup competitions to Basel, Besiktas and Aston Villa.
League position if we finish 5th or lower would be unacceptable.
I would take on board the managers claim that we have lost 52goals from Suarez and Sturridge this season but I would also remind the board that the manager signed Lambert and Balotelli and prefered to play a winger upfront to both of them.
I would listen to fellow members who would remind us that we finished 2nd and nearly won the title the previous season.
I would state that is down to 1 player Suarez, members may claim it was down to the managers tactics, if so then utilizing similar tactics I would ask for clarification on the matter of our low numbers of goals this year especially with Lambert who was at the top of the goal scoring charts the previous season.
I would be happy with income from players sales, especially if a 50 million offer for Sterling materializes and with the 75million from Suarez.
Further good news would be the departure of high earning players from the wage bill, Gerrard and Johnson.
I would recommend we talk to Klopp to sound him out and replace BR with Klopp, he has achievement success on a shoestring at Dortmund.
I would not recommend talking to Rafa, due to his media outbursts vs Hicks and Gillett and the previous owners at Valencia when he was manager.
If Klopp was not available I would recommend keeping BR but giving him a maximum budget of 45 million. Did Rodgers sign Balotelli? its sounds to me that he was pushed on him. He stated that he did not want him so I do not know where you are getting that from. You also state that Suarez nearly one us the league last year. So Van persie won the league for utd a couple of seasons ago, Costa and hazard won it for chelsea. Good players win you stuff , nothing new there. The manager does not kick the ball on the pitch..... As a manager, it is his responsibility to build his squad within a given budget and yes there can be a wage budget too. If he didn't agree to the Balotelli purchase, then there won't even be a committee to appraise the manager as he will say he was just a coach who didn't choose the team. Here I suppose we are appraising him as a manager.
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I'm not as down-trodden about our chances next year with BR, but sticking to the thread...
I would consider two domestic cup semi's as decent, and disappointment more at the Europa league fall-out than the CL.
I would question the liability in the team when we get to big games and can't perform (something that has become more common than the end of season last year).
I would raise concerns at 5th place if we finish there, but I'd see reassurances in the results we've had since Christmas.
I would remind the board that missing out on a prime target to replace Suarez in the first team was a notable problem, and that most of the signings have taken much longer to settle than expected. I'd relay information on the team once they've settled, and how results have changed.
I would consider the striking problem, note how BR signed, with the TC, Balotelli and Lambert, and Borini was his early signing too. That being said, Lambert nearly left for profit, Borini should have, and Balotelli has struggled playing in the system and can still leave for decent money.
I would draw attention to the way in which BR has been able to relieve high earners from the entire club within three seasons, while managing to build a bigger, more capable squad, with depth, than the one inherited.
I would draw attention to the form of the club, excluding two half season bedding in periods with major player changes, to be in line with CL qualifications and a title challenge.
I would NEVER suggest sounding out a manager without sacking the manager first, and to my belief, I think he deserves the opening half of the season to prove he is on track to get back in the CL, otherwise, I would consider alternate targets and begin the process of looking for replacements, without approaching any, ahead of either quick change or at the end of next season. I would really question your judgement in reassurances after Christmas after we were overrun by a poor Villa in one of our most important opportunities to win a trophy. I would definitely sound Klopp as I am convinced he will do a better job.
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How many league wins in a row does he need to prove his worth
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How many league wins in a row does he need to prove his worth
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So we cant accept losing a cup semi to aNother pl team, even if they played us off the park like a lot of teams under tim.
We also cant almost recover from a terrible start and gain any points for that...
Im aware this isnt about now or nothing....
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