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They did it with kenny.
It's time to start the Rafa chant and get our club back before the yanks appoint brodge 2 and ruin this great club forever.
Altogether now, raaaafa, raaaafael.....
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No we can't and Rafa isn't the way forward.
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Klopp for the Kop
Then Rafa the gaffer...
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no to raffa, but id take him over rodgers if pushed on it.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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no to raffa, but id take him over rodgers if pushed on it. I'm with you on that flames. Raffa is better than Rodgers, but it certainly isn't much of a step forward in terms of progressing the club. We know what Benitez can do, and he's got progressively worse. That is hardly a sign of intent from the owners.
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Rafa is not the answer unless the owners are willing to splash the cash. Rafa is a money manager just like Mourhino, Van Gaal and Anceletti. They needed to be at big spending teams to win things. Rafa had the team in place when he took over Valencia, just like Mourhino when he took over Porto.
Yes, Rafa won the champions League in his first season with us, but by the end of his reign you could see he had taken us as far as he could, good times but we were on the decline. Rafa still an LFC Manager legend
If Rafa were to take over next season we would be in a worse position if he had to stick to the transfer rules of FSG.
Personally I would give Rodgers next season to turn things around, in his first season he came 7th, second season 2nd, and this season most likely 5th, 6th or 7th. Rodgers is building something, unfortunately we have lost 53 premier league goal with Suarez leaving and Sturridge injuries, thats a lot to loose.
If Klopp took over it would take him another 5 years to build something, plus Klopp was winning things at Dortmund but he has a quality side ready for him when he took over (I think, i could be wrong), then once all big stars start leaving Goetze, Lewandowski, and others get injuries Gundogan and Reus you see that they have falling and are just getting back into the top ten.
Personally i thin our answer is to stick with Rodgers and get rid of the transfer commitee, give Rodgers big funds and let him decide targets without restrictions, then if next season goes the same way as this then look for someone new.
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Throwing good money after bad Luis with BR and the committee is definitely not the answer. Initially on his own and now with the committee has surely shown us all we need to see thanks. The success/failure rate on transfers is probably the worst in the entire league since his appointment. We are not in the first 1/4 of the campaign here where it was right to give the benefit of the doubt. We are at the end of the season and 3 years in.
Klopp is the play but the hurdles to his appointment e.g. No clueless FSG interference makes it unlikely IMO although I'm hoping it happens. However, it's hard to think their goals are aligned with ours anyway which was half the problem from the off.
Last edited by Top4; 01/05/15 02:46 PM.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
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Rafa is not the answer unless the owners are willing to splash the cash. Rafa is a money manager just like Mourhino, Van Gaal and Anceletti. They needed to be at big spending teams to win things. Rafa had the team in place when he took over Valencia, just like Mourhino when he took over Porto.
Yes, Rafa won the champions League in his first season with us, but by the end of his reign you could see he had taken us as far as he could, good times but we were on the decline. Rafa still an LFC Manager legend
If Rafa were to take over next season we would be in a worse position if he had to stick to the transfer rules of FSG.
Personally I would give Rodgers next season to turn things around, in his first season he came 7th, second season 2nd, and this season most likely 5th, 6th or 7th. Rodgers is building something, unfortunately we have lost 53 premier league goal with Suarez leaving and Sturridge injuries, thats a lot to loose.
If Klopp took over it would take him another 5 years to build something, plus Klopp was winning things at Dortmund but he has a quality side ready for him when he took over (I think, i could be wrong), then once all big stars start leaving Goetze, Lewandowski, and others get injuries Gundogan and Reus you see that they have falling and are just getting back into the top ten.
Personally i thin our answer is to stick with Rodgers and get rid of the transfer commitee, give Rodgers big funds and let him decide targets without restrictions, then if next season goes the same way as this then look for someone new. You are wrong, Klopp did a huge job at Dortmund, Rodgers is nowhere near. Rafa is not the answer but he would be better than Rodgers for sure.
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Brodge made these shitte signings .. Most of them... Give him his P45 asap
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Rafa is not the answer unless the owners are willing to splash the cash. Rafa is a money manager just like Mourhino, Van Gaal and Anceletti. They needed to be at big spending teams to win things. Rafa had the team in place when he took over Valencia, just like Mourhino when he took over Porto.
Yes, Rafa won the champions League in his first season with us, but by the end of his reign you could see he had taken us as far as he could, good times but we were on the decline. Rafa still an LFC Manager legend
If Rafa were to take over next season we would be in a worse position if he had to stick to the transfer rules of FSG.
Personally I would give Rodgers next season to turn things around, in his first season he came 7th, second season 2nd, and this season most likely 5th, 6th or 7th. Rodgers is building something, unfortunately we have lost 53 premier league goal with Suarez leaving and Sturridge injuries, thats a lot to loose.
If Klopp took over it would take him another 5 years to build something, plus Klopp was winning things at Dortmund but he has a quality side ready for him when he took over (I think, i could be wrong), then once all big stars start leaving Goetze, Lewandowski, and others get injuries Gundogan and Reus you see that they have falling and are just getting back into the top ten.
Personally i thin our answer is to stick with Rodgers and get rid of the transfer commitee, give Rodgers big funds and let him decide targets without restrictions, then if next season goes the same way as this then look for someone new. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and reservations about Klopp and Rafa are both fair and justified, but you are out of your mind beyond comprehension if you think Rodgers should be given a single penny to spend, he should be given LESS control over transfers not more! He is one of the worst managers at buying players the premier league has ever seen, and that is not remotely an exaggeration. A record of his business should make all Liverpool fans wince in pain at how the best chance Liverpool have had to cement top 4 since Rafa was wasted at least 80 % due to Rodgers inability to pick remotely good acquisitions. This committee compounds that problem granted, but signings should be taken so far out of Rodgers hands we hear about them before he does, he's pathetic and incompetent at it. DoF's are much maligned but I'd rather have one than give Rodgers a single penny more to undoubtedly waste if he is given a chance to rectify things (which I'm not totally against as he has shown some good coaching skills and I don't think we will get anyone definitively better).
Last edited by bigredkop; 01/05/15 04:27 PM.
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