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So what's wrong with what he said there?
Nothing if we hadn't lost the game.


Whats wrong is we have struggled to win those type of game

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Gerard Houllier broke the mold of Liverpool managers.
it used to be one of humility, pride, discipline, sacrifice and focus on the important issues being the club's success above all else.
The frenchman introduced a culture of focus on what the manager says and says and says and says.... it served to hide the slide away from tradition and success.
from that time the club lost its way as the managers "speak" which was mostly about how famous the club WAS, and the manager speak became more important than what the club was doing.

Brenda has polished the poop as his predecessors did.

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The beginning of the Spin Doctors (after Roy Evans)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Evans

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Originally Posted By: Vicdamone
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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
So what's wrong with what he said there?
Nothing if we hadn't lost the game.


Whats wrong is we have struggled to win those type of game


The quote in the OP is nothing to do with winning games it's about signing players.

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You said personal terms trumps transfer fee!!

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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
It does if we offered 5 mil more for a player but another club offers better personal terms and the player wanted to go there that's what would happen show me an example of where a player has gone to a club that didn't offer the personal terms the player wanted ?


Why would the club accept two offers, one of which was £5mil less? The club holds all the cards and could easily push a player to leave for the highest transfer fee and reject the other lower offer. If this was the case the player would have had only one offer on the table!

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Yes, but then the selling club could pay off the player who they want to leave.

We should have done this with Borini.

And we also should have point blank refused to do business with Barca over Suarez unless Sanchez and who ever else was included in the deal, this would have eliminated Arsenal from the running and we would have held all the cards.

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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
It does if we offered 5 mil more for a player but another club offers better personal terms and the player wanted to go there that's what would happen show me an example of where a player has gone to a club that didn't offer the personal terms the player wanted ?


We offered more to Shaqiri than Inter did.

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Originally Posted By: Chris2402
Yes, but then the selling club could pay off the player who they want to leave.

We should have done this with Borini.

And we also should have point blank refused to do business with Barca over Suarez unless Sanchez and who ever else was included in the deal, this would have eliminated Arsenal from the running and we would have held all the cards.


You cannot refuse to sell once the release clause target is met.

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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
Which proves the player has the final say and I might add a rare event that we offer more in personal terms and I believe only happens in small priced players for instance all the TCP we have been in for can't recall us offering better terms because usually these guys are on over a 100 k any way where as you example we would of had a bit of leeway given he wouldn't of been on 100 k Plus of coarse its matters to the player the type of club who's already at the club etc
We would be poor on all counts
Suarez left Gerard going no other TCP a history of buying mediocre players never bought a big name player in quite a few years no consistency in competing for top comps been out of CL more than in it in the last 8 years or more not very inspiring record and there seems no ambition to change that I would of chose inter too


Bingo!! This is what I've been saying all along while you insist we just chuck money at them! Money is obviously a big part of anything but not the only thing players will consider.

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