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He makes it up as he goes neither here or there

It's up to you, but I expect you've got a many years of disappointment ahead of you if you think much is going to change.

Do we know for a fact that we'll end up 5:th this year though?

We could be 4:th or as likely 8:th in the end. Still too early to tell, isn't it?

FSG - 1, Darcus - 0

Of course...which is why I find it odd that people want Rodgers sacked immediately.

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Identifying targets and developing strategies under a committee doesn't mean Rodgers doesn't pull the trigger on who he wants.

I'm sorry this is completely and utterly ridiculous. Leaving out last year completely nullifies any comment you go on to make. It's one of the silliest things I've heard on this forum, and that's saying something!

You should reassess your position regularly, the most logical points to do that are during transfer windows, so twice a season is a minimum. You can't just leave out last year because it completely destroys the point you want to try and make.

Based on where we were at the end of last season, losing 1 player and having 120 million+ to spend, Rodgers has completely and utterly failed to deliver. Top 4 should have been an absolute minimum. So yes he has failed on that target. He has done okay since the january transfer window considering he had no funds to spend so I think that will save him in the eyes of FSG as they know they want a spurs, not a team that competes.

You ALWAYS fail to deliver when someone asks you to give evidence for why top 4 shouldn't be expected this season, the only way you can do it is if you miss out last year, which is one of the stupidest starts to a post I've ever heard. It doesn't matter where you were 2 years ago if you have a fantastic opportunity after last year to deliver something. Rodgers has categorically failed the minimum that could have been expected of a good manager in that position. 4th should have been nailed on.

Having said all of this, there is no point replacing him with another nobody, so I'm not gonna start chanting Rodgers out, as FSG won't go for anyone any better. I would however desperately like to punch Rodgers in the face every time he tried to be involved in player Recruitment, one of the worst managers I've seen at that (that has managed a top-ish club).

Not including a freak result, ie last year's runner up position, is important if you want petspective. We only achieved it due to a low workload and freak set of circumstances so it shouldn't be taken into consideration when looking at our progress. It was a one off and not a reflection on where we were as a team. In other words, although we finished 2nd that didn't mean we were the 2nd best team in the country. You need to look at our average final positions over a longer period to see if we are progressing.

This is completely ridiculous. The factors involved in our 'freak position' last year need to be taken into account for when forecasting expectations for this year, they don't mean that one year should be completely written off. Take that to a board meeting somewhere and watch how you get utterly laughed out of the room. The plan that was right 2 or 3 years ago, isn't necessarily the correct plan for now (or more aptly for the beginning of this season).

You need to look at where you are at the end of last season, all the factors you mention should be taken into account to realise that competing for the title was unrealistic, progress therefore would have been securing a top 4 spot, not getting top 4 would be regressing. Completely omitting last year is utterly ridiculous and serves no tangible purpose other than the fact that with it, your point is completely disproved.