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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I think in a few more years man united are going to go on another era of domination even City and Chelsea can't live with them FFP wise

We are simply not at the races as we all are now too aware
They might , but we're talking about the present season.

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So united supporters should be dancing around the place coz they're third, potentially ELEVEN points off the top? Wouldn't that point to THEIR expectations being managed?


How desperate can someone grasp for straws?!? They have great momentum, have gone from nowhere to 3rd, and look set to heavily invest again in the Summer, with a manager who has done it at big levels. Utd fans should be dancing around the place because they are demonstrating progress. They know they aren't going to win the title next year, but they're all set to return to the top table. We are falling further off it, despite having had an absolutely fantastic opportunity to cement our hold on a top 4 spot.
So it's just about being less shyte than last season? This is a team that's benning winning titles and European cups and now they should be happy with third just because they had one shitty season?


It's about forward progression and momentum. Quite simple really.

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Great post shaggy and devastating analysis of the jokers in charge of liverpool FSG rodgers ian Ayre and the infamous transfer committee who would not know a decent footballer if they fell over one


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So how did we manage 2nd last season then?

Jesus...Is that a legitimate question?!

1- Suarez, 33 games / 31 goals / 21 assists
2- Sturridge, 29 games, 22 goals, 9 assists
3- No European games mid-week
4- Sturridge aside, no significant injuries
5- Suarez aside, no lengthy bans (1 red card all season)
5- Chelsea, Utd, City all getting new managers and underperforming

We lost Suarez, Sturridge has effectively been injured all season, we've had 2 European campaigns, injuries to Gerrard, Lallana, Sakho, Lucas, Ibe & Flanagan at various times, Mignolet lost his head for 4 months, Lovren might not actually be a football player, red cards/ bans for Gerrard, Sktrel & Can (the latter being 2 of our best performers) as well as Chelsea and Utd finding their form.

I cannot comprehend how you cannot see the differences between this and last season, it's painfully obvious.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I think in a few more years man united are going to go on another era of domination even City and Chelsea can't live with them FFP wise

We are simply not at the races as we all are now too aware


I also think that because of FFP City and Chelsea will not be able to compete with them, but Chelsea with Mourinho will be there. Arsenal will be the second highest spender and we will be 3rd after that the stadium is developed provided we have a top manager who can attract players and win trophies. In terms of spending it's already the case when you look at the summer transfer window, we were the 3rd net spenders behind United and Arsenal, we will miss out in the next window though because of non CL quali.

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Originally Posted By: harleybrown
So how did we manage 2nd last season then?

Jesus...Is that a legitimate question?!

1- Suarez, 33 games / 31 goals / 21 assists
2- Sturridge, 29 games, 22 goals, 9 assists
3- No European games mid-week
4- Sturridge aside, no significant injuries
5- Suarez aside, no lengthy bans (1 red card all season)
5- Chelsea, Utd, City all getting new managers and underperforming

We lost Suarez, Sturridge has effectively been injured all season, we've had 2 European campaigns, injuries to Gerrard, Lallana, Sakho, Lucas, Ibe & Flanagan at various times, Mignolet lost his head for 4 months, Lovren might not actually be a football player, red cards/ bans for Gerrard, Sktrel & Can (the latter being 2 of our best performers) as well as Chelsea and Utd finding their form.

I cannot comprehend how you cannot see the differences between this and last season, it's painfully obvious.


Playing extra games is only a burden if you are playing badly, all teams get injuries and suspensions and Arsenal lost their captain (Viera, Henry, Fabregas, Van Persie)4 seasons in a row but still qualified for CL each season. Our goalie has no serious competition and our remaining centre forward has always been injury prone. (Out for 3 games with a broken lace)
But we all know how we really managed to finish second last season LUIS SUAREZ.
That therefore raises the question of BR's managerial ability.
The dogs in the street knew we were losing Suarez and yet we failed to replace him.
We had a great chance to establish ourselves in the Top 4 and we failed to do so.
Our transfers under BR have been catastrophic and we have managed to go from 2nd to 5th while spending over £100m in the process.
I agree with you on Lovren, Balotelli's signing is on a par with Andy Carroll when it comes to waste and Markovic was grossly overpriced.
That's over £50m on three exceptionally dodgy players.

Whoever is in charge of transfers has been grossly negligent with the clubs money and it amazes me that he/they are still in a job.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: harleybrown
So how did we manage 2nd last season then?

Jesus...Is that a legitimate question?!

1- Suarez, 33 games / 31 goals / 21 assists
2- Sturridge, 29 games, 22 goals, 9 assists
3- No European games mid-week
4- Sturridge aside, no significant injuries
5- Suarez aside, no lengthy bans (1 red card all season)
5- Chelsea, Utd, City all getting new managers and underperforming

We lost Suarez, Sturridge has effectively been injured all season, we've had 2 European campaigns, injuries to Gerrard, Lallana, Sakho, Lucas, Ibe & Flanagan at various times, Mignolet lost his head for 4 months, Lovren might not actually be a football player, red cards/ bans for Gerrard, Sktrel & Can (the latter being 2 of our best performers) as well as Chelsea and Utd finding their form.

I cannot comprehend how you cannot see the differences between this and last season, it's painfully obvious.


Playing extra games is only a burden if you are playing badly, all teams get injuries and suspensions and Arsenal lost their captain (Viera, Henry, Fabregas, Van Persie)4 seasons in a row but still qualified for CL each season. Our goalie has no serious competition and our remaining centre forward has always been injury prone. (Out for 3 games with a broken lace)
But we all know how we really managed to finish second last season LUIS SUAREZ.
That therefore raises the question of BR's managerial ability.




That's extremely harsh. How exactly were we supposed to 'replace' Luis Suarez??!?. There are only 1 or 2 other players in the world with his quality and neither of them would be coming to Liverpool regardless of who our manager is. And it wasn't just a case of selling 1 forward and buying another 1 - the Suarez money had to be used to buy another forward AND increase the size of the squad due to having a longer season and playing in europe. Harleybrown is 100% spot on.

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Obviously we wouldn't replace him like for like. The plan was to spread the goals across the team more evenly, but it was implemented poorly in the purchases of Lallana, Markovic and Balotelli

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Originally Posted By: MyKneeGrows
Obviously we wouldn't replace him like for like. The plan was to spread the goals across the team more evenly, but it was implemented poorly in the purchases of Lallana, Markovic and Balotelli


It's not been a great success has it?

Lallana - was much better at Southampton but still not a £26m player. I was shocked by that fee. That said, he should be better next year because we know he has ability.

Markovic - £20m for him is 'so far' looking like an absolute joke. I know that Chelsea wanted him but I think we have seen why they didn't complete the deal. He doesn't seem to offer anything at all. I keep hearing about his 'blistering' pace, but he looks pretty average paced to me?

Balotelli - I don't believe that Brendan even wanted him - he even stated in a press conference that MB would definitely not be a Liverpool player. BR then had very little to say when we mysteriously pulled out of the Remy signing at the last minute. The Remy/Balotelli farce must have been done behind his back. (That said, when I heard we were getting MB for £16m I thought it would be excellent business!)

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Would agree with all that but I guess with Markovic he was one for the future.

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