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Because nothing is achieved from it, we wouldn't of been relegated we'd of stayed in 13th.

So you see absolutely nothing positive with a good run of results? I can see where you're coming from but that is a positive and it's why Darcus is saying that there's too much negativity.

Good at the time, obviously I want to see Liverpool win. But at the seasons end when we have no top4 where did it get us..

What a miserable, negative fecker you are! It's 'fans' like you that are a poison to the club.


Tell you what, why not tell me what a realistic expectation for this season should be? ..and we'll go from there..

Poison, oh stop being such a drama queen.

Well apparently you are quite happy with our achievements for this season, but they are slightly lower than mine.

Do keep in mind that BR told us less than a month ago that we were capable of finishing 2nd this season, then told us 2 games later that we wouldn't make the Top 4. Now there is a lesson in managing expectation if ever I saw one.

I see no point in discussing my expectations with you as you refuse to discuss any negatives.

When you get your head out of that sand maybe we can have a proper discussion.

A very defeatist response if ever there was one, because deep down you know that any expectations you have are unrealistic.

For the record, I am more than happy to discuss negatives. I didn't bring them up earlier in the thread because at the time I was asked to list positives(!). It's pretty straight forward really.

But if you want to know what I'm unhappy about.....

lack of squad depth
over inflated transfer fees last summer
injuries
the decision to sell suarez
poor central midfield
the regular game time that joe allen gets
the purchase of ballotelli over remy
the lack of quality brought in last summer

...there's quite a list but if I am defending the manager then surely you must expect me to focus on positives, especially when drawn on the matter?

Anyway, just for a laugh let's get back to your expectations....?

Here you go, have a read at this.. My expectations will be at the end.

In the last 3 years are net spend has been greater than City's and nearly double Arsenals. Our gross spend is also greater than both.

http://bitterandblue.sbnation.com/2014/9...3-5-and-7-years


http://shewore.com/2014/04/21/spend-net-spend-of-top-7-clubs-over-last-5-years/

During that time:

City have won 2 PL Titles and 1 FA Cup

Arsenal have won FA Cup and qualified CL all 3 seasons

We have won nothing, qualified for CL once, but we have regularly been 'outstanding'.

Our one truly world class player was signed before BR arrived and we now have one of the poorest squads ever at the club. (My opinion)
This is despite BR spending over £200m on transfers.

We lost one player last season and we spent £100m in the transfer market on new players.
We have since gone from 2nd to 5th and our performances in the CL were shambolic.

My expectations were that we would mount a serious sustainable challenge for a Top 4 place. (It will be a very very long time before we challenge for the league again.)

I expected us to buy a quality striker to replace Suarez, not Lambert & Balotelli.

I expected our manager to take the CL seriously. The team he put out in the Bernabeu was insulting to LFC and showed how little he thought of our proud heritage and tradition in that competition.

My expectation, far from being unattainable, were probably conservative.

Did we achieve any of them. Doesn't look like it.
City may continue to implode but are we capable of taking advantage?

I don't see why we should be expected to be happy with 5th place given what we spent.

The FA Cup is a nice day out and to win it will be nice, but we all know what the really big prizes are in football now.

Look at united's defence...if football was just a stats game commoli would still be in a job with spurs or us. Really really baseless use of stats to support a ridiculous idea that Mingolet is anywhere near De Gea. There is a reason why one is considered one of the players of the year and one of the best in the world, and the other plays for us and could be improved upon.

So it's just about being less shyte than last season? This is a team that's benning winning titles and European cups and now they should be happy with third just because they had one shitty season?

I think in a few more years man united are going to go on another era of domination even City and Chelsea can't live with them FFP wise

We are simply not at the races as we all are now too aware