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Which of the top4 have we spent more money than in the last 4 years? First, the gap needs to bridged - only then can we look at whether we have spent as well as our rivals.
Put it this way:
Suppose Chelsea came 2nd in the league, spent £100m and won the league....
Suppose we were 8th in the league, spent £200m and finished 4th....
Because Chelsea are league champions, does it mean they spent more wisely than us?
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I was talking more about your 50% foreign players fail/Sterling has more goals then David Silva posts.
I don't mind stats, but you've use them entirely to form an opinion on De Gea.
Yes there are positives but I believe they are outweighed by the negatives. Still haven't won anything despite spending more than some of our top4 rivals, which, according to you, is the only factor. We had to spend more than most of them to try and bridge the gap.
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Oh looks like you're still at it. I've praised their goal keeper when you suggested he was in a purple patch from only looking at his stats.
What is there to praise about Liverpool currently? I could always adopt your strategy and make stuff up. All that proves is that you watch Man Utd a lot more than most LFC fans because you are aware of how he plays on regular basis rather than having to revert to statistical info.. Good for you. When I give an opinion, I get accused of making things up (?!?!). When I state a fact, some soppy old fanny turns up complaining that stats are misleading!!! Man alive! There's a lot to praise about Liverpool - we've lost just 2 games this years and went on a run of form that saw us go 6 consecutive away games without conceding a goal ( a club record)- 'despite' having mignolet in goal who apparently isn't very good. Bar the occasional blip, BR sorted our defence out, sorted our keeper out and kept us within touch of the top 4 despite being without our main striker for most of the season. Furthermore, we're in an FA cup semi-final which is something that only 3 other teams can boast about. We'll also get a nice cash injection to spend on the squad thanks to BR getting us back into the CL for the first time in 5 years. Granted, there are negatives too but I'll leave that for rival fans to talk about. Supporting the club means being positive. This attitude is why we are happy with an FA Cup semi final and 5th place, despite finishing 2nd in the league last season and spending £100m in the summer. Being positive is all fine and well but it should never be at the expense of realism. A fine unbeaten run is only useful if it hasn't followed an horrendous run of results early in the season. By the way the 3 other teams that can boast about a semi-final place include the all conquering Reading. Also it is difficult to have a debate about the team if having admitted that there are negatives you then refuse to discuss them. Burying your head in the sand wont make them go away.
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Oh looks like you're still at it. I've praised their goal keeper when you suggested he was in a purple patch from only looking at his stats.
What is there to praise about Liverpool currently? I could always adopt your strategy and make stuff up. All that proves is that you watch Man Utd a lot more than most LFC fans because you are aware of how he plays on regular basis rather than having to revert to statistical info.. Good for you. When I give an opinion, I get accused of making things up (?!?!). When I state a fact, some soppy old fanny turns up complaining that stats are misleading!!! Man alive! There's a lot to praise about Liverpool - we've lost just 2 games this years and went on a run of form that saw us go 6 consecutive away games without conceding a goal ( a club record)- 'despite' having mignolet in goal who apparently isn't very good. Bar the occasional blip, BR sorted our defence out, sorted our keeper out and kept us within touch of the top 4 despite being without our main striker for most of the season. Furthermore, we're in an FA cup semi-final which is something that only 3 other teams can boast about. We'll also get a nice cash injection to spend on the squad thanks to BR getting us back into the CL for the first time in 5 years. Granted, there are negatives too but I'll leave that for rival fans to talk about. Supporting the club means being positive. This attitude is why we are happy with an FA Cup semi final and 5th place, despite finishing 2nd in the league last season and spending £100m in the summer. Being positive is all fine and well but it should never be at the expense of realism. A fine unbeaten run is only useful if it hasn't followed an horrendous run of results early in the season. By the way the 3 other teams that can boast about a semi-final place include the all conquering Reading. Also it is difficult to have a debate about the team if having admitted that there are negatives you then refuse to discuss them. Burying your head in the sand wont make them go away. This is what I mean!!! I'm asked to point out some positives, and then some mug comes along and tries to do whatever they can to turn a positive into a negative! Why would you do that!?!? I'm not going to tell you to support someone else but you should perhaps take a look at yourself....
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Oh looks like you're still at it. I've praised their goal keeper when you suggested he was in a purple patch from only looking at his stats.
What is there to praise about Liverpool currently? I could always adopt your strategy and make stuff up. All that proves is that you watch Man Utd a lot more than most LFC fans because you are aware of how he plays on regular basis rather than having to revert to statistical info.. Good for you. When I give an opinion, I get accused of making things up (?!?!). When I state a fact, some soppy old fanny turns up complaining that stats are misleading!!! Man alive! There's a lot to praise about Liverpool - we've lost just 2 games this years and went on a run of form that saw us go 6 consecutive away games without conceding a goal ( a club record)- 'despite' having mignolet in goal who apparently isn't very good. Bar the occasional blip, BR sorted our defence out, sorted our keeper out and kept us within touch of the top 4 despite being without our main striker for most of the season. Furthermore, we're in an FA cup semi-final which is something that only 3 other teams can boast about. We'll also get a nice cash injection to spend on the squad thanks to BR getting us back into the CL for the first time in 5 years. Granted, there are negatives too but I'll leave that for rival fans to talk about. Supporting the club means being positive. This attitude is why we are happy with an FA Cup semi final and 5th place, despite finishing 2nd in the league last season and spending £100m in the summer. Being positive is all fine and well but it should never be at the expense of realism. A fine unbeaten run is only useful if it hasn't followed an horrendous run of results early in the season. By the way the 3 other teams that can boast about a semi-final place include the all conquering Reading. Also it is difficult to have a debate about the team if having admitted that there are negatives you then refuse to discuss them. Burying your head in the sand wont make them go away. I disagree. Imagine if we didn't have that unbeaten run and carried on how we were. Where would we be now? It's a massive positive and could just see us scrape into 4th (but I doubt it).
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Exactly. It's like saying Utd's recent run isn't "useful" because it followed a run of not-so-good form! Tell that to Utd fans when they are playing in the CL next season.
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But they'll achieve CL, we won't. Our run of good form becomes meaningless, unless you're a fan of the Europa.
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But they'll achieve CL, we won't. Our run of good form becomes meaningless, unless you're a fan of the Europa. Good job I am then.
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But they'll achieve CL, we won't. Our run of good form becomes meaningless, unless you're a fan of the Europa. How can the run be meaningless when we were close to relegation form before it? Like I said, imagine where we'd be if we didn't have that run.
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Oh looks like you're still at it. I've praised their goal keeper when you suggested he was in a purple patch from only looking at his stats.
What is there to praise about Liverpool currently? I could always adopt your strategy and make stuff up. All that proves is that you watch Man Utd a lot more than most LFC fans because you are aware of how he plays on regular basis rather than having to revert to statistical info.. Good for you. When I give an opinion, I get accused of making things up (?!?!). When I state a fact, some soppy old fanny turns up complaining that stats are misleading!!! Man alive! There's a lot to praise about Liverpool - we've lost just 2 games this years and went on a run of form that saw us go 6 consecutive away games without conceding a goal ( a club record)- 'despite' having mignolet in goal who apparently isn't very good. Bar the occasional blip, BR sorted our defence out, sorted our keeper out and kept us within touch of the top 4 despite being without our main striker for most of the season. Furthermore, we're in an FA cup semi-final which is something that only 3 other teams can boast about. We'll also get a nice cash injection to spend on the squad thanks to BR getting us back into the CL for the first time in 5 years. Granted, there are negatives too but I'll leave that for rival fans to talk about. Supporting the club means being positive. This attitude is why we are happy with an FA Cup semi final and 5th place, despite finishing 2nd in the league last season and spending £100m in the summer. Being positive is all fine and well but it should never be at the expense of realism. A fine unbeaten run is only useful if it hasn't followed an horrendous run of results early in the season. By the way the 3 other teams that can boast about a semi-final place include the all conquering Reading. Also it is difficult to have a debate about the team if having admitted that there are negatives you then refuse to discuss them. Burying your head in the sand wont make them go away. This is what I mean!!! I'm asked to point out some positives, and then some mug comes along and tries to do whatever they can to turn a positive into a negative! Why would you do that!?!? I'm not going to tell you to support someone else but you should perhaps take a look at yourself.... As I said, it's hard to argue rationally with a man that recognises, but refuses to discuss his own teams weaknesses. You cannot decide that you will only discuss the positives because that suits your argument. Your refusal to discuss the negatives is both childish and non-sensical Your "positive" has to be measured against the fact that a Championship side has achieved exactly the same this season without spending £100m. Also referring to those who disagree with you as united fans or needing to have a look at themselves isn't really an argument at all. Maybe if you spent more time actually watching footy instead of googling stats your argument might carry greater weight.
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