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Because nothing is achieved from it, we wouldn't of been relegated we'd of stayed in 13th.

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Originally Posted By: MyKneeGrows
Because nothing is achieved from it, we wouldn't of been relegated we'd of stayed in 13th.


So you see absolutely nothing positive with a good run of results? I can see where you're coming from but that is a positive and it's why Darcus is saying that there's too much negativity.

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Good at the time, obviously I want to see Liverpool win. But at the seasons end when we have no top4 where did it get us..

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What a miserable, negative fecker you are! It's 'fans' like you that are a poison to the club.


Tell you what, why not tell me what a realistic expectation for this season should be? ..and we'll go from there..

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
What a miserable, negative fecker you are! It's 'fans' like you that are a poison to the club.


Tell you what, why not tell me what a realistic expectation for this season should be? ..and we'll go from there..


Poison, oh stop being such a drama queen.

Well apparently you are quite happy with our achievements for this season, but they are slightly lower than mine.

Do keep in mind that BR told us less than a month ago that we were capable of finishing 2nd this season, then told us 2 games later that we wouldn't make the Top 4. Now there is a lesson in managing expectation if ever I saw one.

I see no point in discussing my expectations with you as you refuse to discuss any negatives.

When you get your head out of that sand maybe we can have a proper discussion.

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A very defeatist response if ever there was one, because deep down you know that any expectations you have are unrealistic.

For the record, I am more than happy to discuss negatives. I didn't bring them up earlier in the thread because at the time I was asked to list positives(!). It's pretty straight forward really.

But if you want to know what I'm unhappy about.....

lack of squad depth
over inflated transfer fees last summer
injuries
the decision to sell suarez
poor central midfield
the regular game time that joe allen gets
the purchase of ballotelli over remy
the lack of quality brought in last summer

...there's quite a list but if I am defending the manager then surely you must expect me to focus on positives, especially when drawn on the matter?

Anyway, just for a laugh let's get back to your expectations....?

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
A very defeatist response if ever there was one, because deep down you know that any expectations you have are unrealistic.

For the record, I am more than happy to discuss negatives. I didn't bring them up earlier in the thread because at the time I was asked to list positives(!). It's pretty straight forward really.

But if you want to know what I'm unhappy about.....

lack of squad depth
over inflated transfer fees last summer
injuries
the decision to sell suarez
poor central midfield
the regular game time that joe allen gets
the purchase of ballotelli over remy
the lack of quality brought in last summer

...there's quite a list but if I am defending the manager then surely you must expect me to focus on positives, especially when drawn on the matter?

Anyway, just for a laugh let's get back to your expectations....?



Here you go, have a read at this.. My expectations will be at the end.

In the last 3 years are net spend has been greater than City's and nearly double Arsenals. Our gross spend is also greater than both.

http://bitterandblue.sbnation.com/2014/9...3-5-and-7-years


http://shewore.com/2014/04/21/spend-net-spend-of-top-7-clubs-over-last-5-years/

During that time:

City have won 2 PL Titles and 1 FA Cup

Arsenal have won FA Cup and qualified CL all 3 seasons

We have won nothing, qualified for CL once, but we have regularly been 'outstanding'.

Our one truly world class player was signed before BR arrived and we now have one of the poorest squads ever at the club. (My opinion)
This is despite BR spending over £200m on transfers.

We lost one player last season and we spent £100m in the transfer market on new players.
We have since gone from 2nd to 5th and our performances in the CL were shambolic.

My expectations were that we would mount a serious sustainable challenge for a Top 4 place. (It will be a very very long time before we challenge for the league again.)

I expected us to buy a quality striker to replace Suarez, not Lambert & Balotelli.

I expected our manager to take the CL seriously. The team he put out in the Bernabeu was insulting to LFC and showed how little he thought of our proud heritage and tradition in that competition.

My expectation, far from being unattainable, were probably conservative.

Did we achieve any of them. Doesn't look like it.
City may continue to implode but are we capable of taking advantage?

I don't see why we should be expected to be happy with 5th place given what we spent.

The FA Cup is a nice day out and to win it will be nice, but we all know what the really big prizes are in football now.

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Mignolet better then De Gea grin ....

De gea is one of the candidates to win player of the year. He has saved Utd time and time again. Crazy comments!


We have different opinions on Utd's keeper. I'm fine with that. The stats are on my side though... 12 clean sheets in 29 games compared to De Gea's 10 in 32. Make of that what you will....


There are plenty of better keepers around than De Gea. The media love Utd though and will make a song and dance when someone is in good form. I don't watch Utd every week so I cannot comment on whether his recent purple patch was the norm. I have friends who are Utd fans and they like him, but they say he's no van der sar or schmeichel. And they wouldn't be too fussed if he left in the summer.


United has conceded 30 goals and we have conceded 36, this is also a stat but which says De Gea is better, no?


Like I said, sometimes the only info I can use is statistical. The way that some people on here drool over De Gea, you would think that they watch every game that he plays in. How else could they be so certain of his superiority? After all, the stats which show has the 7th best record in the EPL for clean sheets are apparently 'misleading'...


Look at united's defence...if football was just a stats game commoli would still be in a job with spurs or us. Really really baseless use of stats to support a ridiculous idea that Mingolet is anywhere near De Gea. There is a reason why one is considered one of the players of the year and one of the best in the world, and the other plays for us and could be improved upon.

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So united supporters should be dancing around the place coz they're third, potentially ELEVEN points off the top? Wouldn't that point to THEIR expectations being managed?


How desperate can someone grasp for straws?!? They have great momentum, have gone from nowhere to 3rd, and look set to heavily invest again in the Summer, with a manager who has done it at big levels. Utd fans should be dancing around the place because they are demonstrating progress. They know they aren't going to win the title next year, but they're all set to return to the top table. We are falling further off it, despite having had an absolutely fantastic opportunity to cement our hold on a top 4 spot.
So it's just about being less shyte than last season? This is a team that's benning winning titles and European cups and now they should be happy with third just because they had one shitty season?

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I think in a few more years man united are going to go on another era of domination even City and Chelsea can't live with them FFP wise

We are simply not at the races as we all are now too aware


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