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The killer blow to BR is that points wise he isn't any better than spurs or Southampton.

Who spent significantly less than us in the summer

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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By: imadk
It's not about tactics, it's about the quality of the players. We went thirteen games undefeated then came unstuck twice in a row because we were playing superior opposition.


lesser team need good tactics to beat teams which have better quality players. Rafa got good results for us all over Europe and in the EPL against Chelsea, United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan....

BR has failed to win most crunch games


Rodgers doesn't know how to get his team to handle pressure, last year we were doing very well until we came top of the league and could believe in winning the league, this year we've done badly because we were expected to have a run for the title after coming second and spending that much. We lost our home game against manure when we had the possibility to get 4th, we are poor in cup competitions because all games are vital otherwise you are out. Quite clear to me. He could be atop coach but not good enough for the top job at at club where expectations are high.

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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
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We are in 5th which is exactly where we should be. Don't look at last season's freak finish and use that as the yardstick for future seasons. Last season we had no European football and we had arguably the best forward in the world. On top of that city, Chelsea and Utd all had new managers trying to rebuild. It was a freak set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that catapulted us to runners up.

Relax, we'll be fine as long as the supporters don't turn on the team or manager.


what is the definition of 'fine'? finishing between places 5 and 7 every season? is that acceptable?


We have no right to expect a higher finish than 5th. FFP will ensure that the final league table each season will more or less be in order of wealth. Our only hope of overtaking one of the 4 teams above is to become wealthier.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By: imadk
It's not about tactics, it's about the quality of the players. We went thirteen games undefeated then came unstuck twice in a row because we were playing superior opposition.


lesser team need good tactics to beat teams which have better quality players. Rafa got good results for us all over Europe and in the EPL against Chelsea, United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan....

BR has failed to win most crunch games




Rodgers doesn't know how to get his team to handle pressure, last year we were doing very well until we came top of the league and could believe in winning the league, this year we've done badly because we were expected to have a run for the title after coming second and spending that much. We lost our home game against manure when we had the possibility to get 4th, we are poor in cup competitions because all games are vital otherwise you are out. Quite clear to me. He could be atop coach but not good enough for the top job at at club where expectations are high.


I think that our bad performances are more down to age, and a lack of experience both in players and management. I think that BR is doing a very good job. Anyone who disagrees must think that we should be challenging for the title. The reality is that our income doesn't allow us to compete at the very top.

All of our top targets go elsewhere for the money meaning we have to take punts on the likes of markovic, can, Moreno, balotelli, coutinho. Sometimes they work out, but more often than not they aren't on the radars of the top clubs for a very good reason. None of this is Brendan's fault.

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By: Darcus
We are in 5th which is exactly where we should be. Don't look at last season's freak finish and use that as the yardstick for future seasons. Last season we had no European football and we had arguably the best forward in the world. On top of that city, Chelsea and Utd all had new managers trying to rebuild. It was a freak set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that catapulted us to runners up.

Relax, we'll be fine as long as the supporters don't turn on the team or manager.


what is the definition of 'fine'? finishing between places 5 and 7 every season? is that acceptable?


We have no right to expect a higher finish than 5th. FFP will ensure that the final league table each season will more or less be in order of wealth. Our only hope of overtaking one of the 4 teams above is to become wealthier.


I disagree slightly. one of the ways to get into the top 4 is to seize an opportunity when one of the richer clubs falter. bide your time and sieze the opportunity when it arises. once you're in the top 4, consolidate your positions and by staying in the top 4 you'll also start to get richer.

last season and this season was our opportunity. our greatest rivals faltered and they haven't been playing that well this season either. their new new manager is only just settling in. the only difference between them and us this season is the double that they did over us.

this season I believe we had a right to expect a top 4 finish. we blew it through poor investments, team selections and coaching.


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Maybe top quality players don't wana sign for a manager that has won fvck all in the game and can't attract top quality players to the club

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gnp you keep making reference to players signing depending on who the manager is. 99% players will sign depending on where the money is and whether or not the team is in the Champions League.

Are you telling me if David O' facking Leary was manager of Chelsea then they wouldn't be able to sign world class players??


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I think 5th is not acceptable and never should be

I BR is an ok manager but nothing special as he keeps making mistakes

He picks the team and the tactics they play so yes he is to blame to some degree

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By: Darcus
We are in 5th which is exactly where we should be. Don't look at last season's freak finish and use that as the yardstick for future seasons. Last season we had no European football and we had arguably the best forward in the world. On top of that city, Chelsea and Utd all had new managers trying to rebuild. It was a freak set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that catapulted us to runners up.

Relax, we'll be fine as long as the supporters don't turn on the team or manager.


what is the definition of 'fine'? finishing between places 5 and 7 every season? is that acceptable?


We have no right to expect a higher finish than 5th. FFP will ensure that the final league table each season will more or less be in order of wealth. Our only hope of overtaking one of the 4 teams above is to become wealthier.


Spending the second highest amount in summer after finishing 2nd should have returned a top 4 finish. No getting around that. It was spent very badly, therefore the manager and committee have failed. That's all there is to it. From now on, due to that wasted chance, we can only expect to be 5th

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The problem with that argument is that we only spent big GROSS.

Our NET spend was peanuts, since we managed to offload our only true world class player for around £ 75 M - without replacing him.

We should have been able to do better in the transfer market if FSG/BR/The Committee hadn't f*cked everything up by forgetting to add some class instead of just numbers to the squad.

We were already in screaming need for more class players before we let Luis go.

And that mess up is what has cost us dearly this season.

Wonder when/if we will recover from that last shower of shìte! frown

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