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I don't see how brendan rodgers can be blamed for the owners and the clubs strategy He went along with it Stan. He signed up to their strategy and told them that he could work with that strategy to deliver results. He then signed off the purchases of a load of inferior quality players at inflated prices. Basically, he put his own interests and ego above the interests of the club. Otherwise he should've turned the job down or walked away at some point. He should've put pressure on FSG just like Rafa did on those other cowboys. sorry but that is just stupid. You blame him for taking job. What young manager would have turned the job down? If it was not Rodgers it would be some other young manager. Did you see any Van Gaal types looking for it. I don't see a new manager making a big difference. They will still get told to buy young prospects. We are 5th best in the League at the moment at that is where we are at as a club. Do people think we have more money to spend that Chelsea, City, Utd and Arsenal have? If you are then you are dreaming How is Lallana a young prospect? BR was desperate to sign him. Mourinho spent less than BR since his arrival by the way and we were supposedly better than Chelsea last season. You are right. Chelsea have bought very well, but they already have a great team that cost a lot of money to construct. This is the reality; Chelea, city, utd, Arsenal spend more money on players and wages than us. Do you see the problem????? Do you see where we are at as a club??
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more can be got from that squad, their mentality and tactics are fragile and limited. thats down to rodgers.
bolatelli should have never happened. nor should joe allen. lucas shouldnt be there anymore. the defence is a shambles. thats all rodgers. no one wants to play for lfc anymore, prospects are dying to jump ship.
fsg dont give a fck, thats clear, and we could do with being rid of them. but rodgers would be shiite under anyone.
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As I said, if he knew he wasn't up to it or if he knew then that the FSG strategy was flawed then he shouldn't have taken it. Martinez continues to claim he turned the job down.
Having taken the job, he has to take significant responsibility for failing to deliver.
We've spent enough money... but just not spent it wisely. That is plain for everyone to see. Even without spending, the defensive tactics have been non-existant. Agree with you there, but would Martinez have done any better. Would he [oops]. Tell me a manager that could change were we are at now?
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As I said, if he knew he wasn't up to it or if he knew then that the FSG strategy was flawed then he shouldn't have taken it. Martinez continues to claim he turned the job down.
Having taken the job, he has to take significant responsibility for failing to deliver.
We've spent enough money... but just not spent it wisely. That is plain for everyone to see. Even without spending, the defensive tactics have been non-existant. Agree with you there, but would Martinez have done any better. Would he [oops]. Tell me a manager that could change were we are at now? Quite a few IMO, but if we go for those who have a record and affordable, I would say de Boer, Klopp, Simeone. Even Dalglish would have done better, it's not easy to go to 2 cup finals in your first full season winning one.
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The worst some of us were thinking seems to be coming true in all departments:
Owners- none of us know for sure what their plans are. What is certain is that they don't understand football and how to put together a winning team.
Manager - out of his depth. the best case was that he had potential and would learn but he's simply not showing enough tactical acumen to get results in big games.
Playing Squad - simply lacks a good distribution of quality across the team. We have some good attacking players in Sturridge, Sterling & Coutinho... but therafter there's not much else to shout about and the defence, including the goalkeeper, is just shocking.
BR has to take the blame in my book. A bit harsh on FSG. What do the glazers know about football? What does abramovich know about football? What do the Arabs know about football? Maybe a lot, maybe a little - none of us know.
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We are in 5th which is exactly where we should be. Don't look at last season's freak finish and use that as the yardstick for future seasons. Last season we had no European football and we had arguably the best forward in the world. On top of that city, Chelsea and Utd all had new managers trying to rebuild. It was a freak set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that catapulted us to runners up.
Relax, we'll be fine as long as the supporters don't turn on the team or manager.
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The worst some of us were thinking seems to be coming true in all departments:
Owners- none of us know for sure what their plans are. What is certain is that they don't understand football and how to put together a winning team.
Manager - out of his depth. the best case was that he had potential and would learn but he's simply not showing enough tactical acumen to get results in big games.
Playing Squad - simply lacks a good distribution of quality across the team. We have some good attacking players in Sturridge, Sterling & Coutinho... but therafter there's not much else to shout about and the defence, including the goalkeeper, is just shocking.
BR has to take the blame in my book. A bit harsh on FSG. What do the glazers know about football? What does abramovich know about football? What do the Arabs know about football? Maybe a lot, maybe a little - none of us know. you can't compare the others with our lot: Glazers - left David Gill and Fergie to handle the football side. Fergie had authority for obvious reasons Abramovic - hired Kenyon from Man Utd, pumped cash into the club, and then hired Mourinho. Arabs - I presume you mean Man City. they also pumped cash into the club and developed it off the field too. FSG - opportunists it seems. out to make a quick buck with minimal risk. kept Roy & Ayre in the job; then messed up with the Comolli saga; uncertainties re: transfer committee; made some BS statement about having the finances to compete with anyone in world football and scouring the world for a world class manager... ending up appointing Kenny followed by a choice between Matinez & Rodgers. so you see... you they're not in the same league as the others.
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We are in 5th which is exactly where we should be. Don't look at last season's freak finish and use that as the yardstick for future seasons. Last season we had no European football and we had arguably the best forward in the world. On top of that city, Chelsea and Utd all had new managers trying to rebuild. It was a freak set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that catapulted us to runners up.
Relax, we'll be fine as long as the supporters don't turn on the team or manager. A thought United had a new manager this season and they were so bad last season that a lot of rebuilding was required. Good managers do not need lots of time and they start the progress immediately.
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We are in 5th which is exactly where we should be. Don't look at last season's freak finish and use that as the yardstick for future seasons. Last season we had no European football and we had arguably the best forward in the world. On top of that city, Chelsea and Utd all had new managers trying to rebuild. It was a freak set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that catapulted us to runners up.
Relax, we'll be fine as long as the supporters don't turn on the team or manager. what is the definition of 'fine'? finishing between places 5 and 7 every season? is that acceptable?
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
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more can be got from that squad, their mentality and tactics are fragile and limited. thats down to rodgers.
bolatelli should have never happened. nor should joe allen. lucas shouldnt be there anymore. the defence is a shambles. thats all rodgers. no one wants to play for lfc anymore, prospects are dying to jump ship.
fsg dont give a fck, thats clear, and we could do with being rid of them. but rodgers would be shiite under anyone. I couldn't agree more.this developing young players policy will be the death of us.we do need to bring talent through but the majority of the team must be established top quality players.we are very unattractive to big targets.
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