KopTalk

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 9 of 29 1 2 … 7 8 9 10 11 … 28 29
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,926
Liverpool Legend
Liverpool Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,926
Originally Posted By: Woolsey
True but my point was that a lot of footballers are just lucky as they have natural ability and destined for a career out of it. Obviously they work hard in order to pursue that career, but there is no clear justification to the ridiculous amount of money being tossed about now.

Others have to work hard for about 20+ years in order to get the career they desire for but their salaries are still incomparable to footballers.


As you said, these people do not have a scarce special talent compared to top footballers who produce huge revenues entertaining people

Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,869
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,869
Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: *** Suso ***
i think you are failing to add up all the extra hours they have to do after school marking homework and the likes of

it is not a picnic in the park as you suggest


LOL, that old boll0cks! Everyone I know works outside of their normal hours. The difference is, the rest of us don't finish at 3.30, have every weekend off, christmas off, easter off, half terms off, the whole friggin summer off....plus 'inset' days off!!!!

It's the cushiest 'full time' job on earth.


You not get onto a PGCE then mate?


I never finish anythi
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,381
B
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
B Offline
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,381
Pigeon, I know an absolute raft of teachers and to a person they would all admit what a cushdie job teaching is. Absolutely they have work to do outside of 'work hours' like every profession does but taking all of it into account still amounts to far more time off than other full time professions.

Similarly for the qualifications required, the amount of time needed to work, the difficulty to get a job in the field, teachers get paid an unfairly high wage, even at primary school level. People (not all some fully deserve it) who could never get that kind of money working in a different profession get paid more and a were entitled to a ridiculous pay increase scheme that had nothing to do with performance, then went on strike about it when it looked like they were going to be brought into the real world.

There are plenty of teachers who fully deserve the money they get paid and the trappings which come with the job. But its far too cushdie for many teachers who go into just because its an easy gig to get for them and pays more than other things they could actually get onto. This is the opinion of many teachers I know not just those of us who have had plenty of conversations with teachers.

If the field was more like in the private sector where effort and and performance were rewarded and those who don't care get weeded out then I'd be calling for higher teacher salaries in the UK along with them. But the fact is too many teachers have a cushdie ride, and then complain about it. That tarnishes the profession for those who actually deserve recognition and improved pay.

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,791
1st Team Squad
1st Team Squad
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,791
Without teachers we wouldn't be having this very discussion as the lot of us would be illiterate. No scientists, no doctors, no engineers.....

Think about it for a second. I am not a teacher or in the education field, but saying they have a cushy overpaid job is to me almost non sensical. I know not everyone agrees. Just my view. They are a vital cog for the advancement of humankind.


Sign Reus
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,926
Liverpool Legend
Liverpool Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 22,926
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Without teachers we wouldn't be having this very discussion as the lot of us would be illiterate. No scientists, no doctors, no engineers.....

Think about it for a second. I am not a teacher or in the education field, but saying they have a cushy overpaid job is to me almost non sensical. I know not everyone agrees. Just my view. They are a vital cog for the advancement of humankind.


Indeed they are vital, but you can add doctors, nurses, scientists, entrepreneurs, managers etc to that list. However, wages doesn't depend on that but on demand and supply. Just imagine for a minute that teachers were to earn 10 times what they are earning, say by law, lots of people would then train to become teachers as you don't need a super special talent for that and they would be in excess, probably more teachers than pupils (I might be exagerating but it's an illustration). Some footballers earn huge wages, but they are few in numbers even if most if not everybody would like to be one of them.

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
Go read how much actors, basketballers, f1 drivers earn per year. Stop complaining people.


Back to Back World Champions baby!
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,791
1st Team Squad
1st Team Squad
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,791
It is a istake to believe that just anyone can be a teacher and that it doeant take a special talent. It does. Anyone can be a footballer but not everyone can be a top footballer. However, top teachers and professors atill dont get paid what top footballers do.


Sign Reus
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 502
R
Under 18 Player
Under 18 Player
R Offline
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 502
My opinon hes just another overpaid footballer who thinks hes better than he is heard a lot of stories about this fella on the bench against southhampton away been a naughty boy the night before and he wants over 100 grand a week see ya

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,908
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,908
Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Originally Posted By: imadk
Originally Posted By: Woolsey
I find it mad that I've been in education for 18 years with the hope of getting an annual salary for what these guys earn in a week. Makes me feel a bit sh*te that to be honest
I've been in education 30 years now -in another country- and if you add up ALL my earnings in those thirty years, they'd fall far short of what Rooney makes in one week. Better not to think about it though, too painful.


It is sooo embarassing! There are currently protests going on in Serbia by the educational workers for this very reason. It is inconcievable that footballers earn this much whilst teachers and professors who shape the young minds of the future and pass on not only knowledge, but experience and manners too are struggling to survive off their earnings.

Shocking. Teachers and professors are right up tehir with doctos imo. One might save your life, but the other gives you the basis and foundation so that you could live your life to the fullest.
Thank you Ninja. That was very heartening indeed.

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,908
Under 23 Player
Under 23 Player
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,908
This discussion is not really just about teachers. Let's say there are two kinds of professions, the normal ones where people work relatively long hours and are paid low to reasonable wages that they have to adjust their lifestyles to. These people have to have proper education and/or training to conduct their jobs properly. They include teachers, doctors, workers, taxi drivers, bank clerks, you know, the whole lot.. and then there's the other group, sportsmen, artists, some politicians, etc.. who are blessed with some special talent or who are simply lucky to earn sums of money incomparable to the rest of us.

Page 9 of 29 1 2 … 7 8 9 10 11 … 28 29

Moderated by  KopTalk Team 

Link Copied to Clipboard
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
Advertisements
Liverpool FC Discussion