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But last year you were ainging the same tune as this year saying we dint have the players and that our team isnt of a high enough quality.you are also making the elementary mistake of neglecting the fact that despite changes which occur year on year in football, our team and the players are young and are all improving with age and experience, bar Gerrard.

The fact they did it once means they are capable of doing it and despite the fact that you want to try mud slinging and insulting, you are contradicting yourself.

As i said, you had the same arguments last season and were proven wrong. You then claimed we over achieved. Now you are saying we didnt overachieve and deserved to finish 2nd. Which is it? Make up your mind...LOL

Let me first say that I agree with you ninja, that the team is good enough to compete. But you're argument here against brk is stupid and doesn have any basis of logic, yet you lol like a child which devalues the opinion yet say he is mud slinging. he hasn't contradicted himself at all yet you want to get nasty cause he has different thoughts to you whcih you seem to do a lot. His point is completely valid things change year after year as do players, just because someone did something last year doesn't mean they can do it this year, and we haven

But last year you were ainging the same tune as this year saying we dint have the players and that our team isnt of a high enough quality.you are also making the elementary mistake of neglecting the fact that despite changes which occur year on year in football, our team and the players are young and are all improving with age and experience, bar Gerrard.

The fact they did it once means they are capable of doing it and despite the fact that you want to try mud slinging and insulting, you are contradicting yourself.

As i said, you had the same arguments last season and were proven wrong. You then claimed we over achieved. Now you are saying we didnt overachieve and deserved to finish 2nd. Which is it? Make up your mind...LOL

I said IF and the season isn't over yet. I think we will finish in the top4 with Arsenal. Which way round I don't know. As I said a few weeks ago Ninja I hoped very much Rogers learned by the mistakes he has made and the learning curve he is under. He appears to be doing that and I think you have more than a good shout in being right about him but I am trying not to jump the gun. I've had too many false dawns and dashed nearly moments to last me the rest of my years!

We are right in the mix, some are being too harsh, we are there for anyone who makes a mistake even a draw from here. I'll upset some but I hope he fields a weaker side in the FA Cup. We need 4th for a host of reasons including the transfer kitty but also the confidence I think it will bring the side. It will also cement to any doubtful players that the manager knows what he is talking about.

We should all try and be positive for the remaining games and believe.

Nice try but again you are trying to twist the facts...the very tone of your initial post, the subsequent "getting my knickers in a twist" comment and the mere suggestion that i do not understand the meaning of the term "contradiction" is in itself arrogant and insulting, not to mention childish.

Allow me to remind you that despite the fact i am Serbian, i was born in the states, lived there for 6 years and in South Africa for 13 and half years. English is my first language. I do not require an explanation of the meaning of the word contradiction.

However, saying that someone who has achieved a goal, in the case that goal being challenging for the title, is not good enough to achieve that goal is in itself a contradiction.

Nowhere did you state that you were reffering to this season only. Instead you have repeated the same stuff since when you began discussing the club under FSG. It has been an endless tirade of "the players are not good enough to challenge for the title"...yet by your own admission, they did exactly that last year.

Whilst things may change year after year in football, things have not changed drastically in the EPL. We have now beaten city at home, we have taken Chelsea to extra time etc.

Saying that the players are not good enough is incorrect deapite changes. The players didnt suddenly become rubbish.

Our league form might have changed, but the quality of the players still at the club has not. If anything, Henderson, Sakho, Allen, Mignolet, Sterling, Coutinho, Skrtel and Lucas have improved. They have the quality. Our team has the quality to challenge for the title.

Now allow me to explain. You saying the proof is in the pudding is also incorrect.
Firstly, many factors other than player quality play a role in league position. Manager quality, schedule, whether the club is playing in europe, fatigue after the world cup, luck etc etc.

Are you suggesting that Chelsea didn't have players of a high enough standard to challenge for the league last season? Because they didnt challenge. The players at their disposal were certainly of a high enough calibre, but certain other factora came into play too, auch as them changing theor playing style.

P.S. Try replying without the condascending tone or suggestions i don't have a grasp of the english language. Perhaps then we could avoid these little uneccessary spats.

I said IF and the season isn't over yet. I think we will finish in the top4 with Arsenal. Which way round I don't know. As I said a few weeks ago Ninja I hoped very much Rogers learned by the mistakes he has made and the learning curve he is under. He appears to be doing that and I think you have more than a good shout in being right about him but I am trying not to jump the gun. I've had too many false dawns and dashed nearly moments to last me the rest of my years!

We are right in the mix, some are being too harsh, we are there for anyone who makes a mistake even a draw from here. I'll upset some but I hope he fields a weaker side in the FA Cup. We need 4th for a host of reasons including the transfer kitty but also the confidence I think it will bring the side. It will also cement to any doubtful players that the manager knows what he is talking about.

We should all try and be positive for the remaining games and believe.

Wait a minute, Chelsea didn't challenge for the title last year? Are you serious? Yes, they were not there in the last few games, but they were in the mix most of the time, do you remember the small horse comment by Maureen? That said, Maureen did say that he didn't have the squad to win the league last season unlike what he said at the beginning of this season.