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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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I'm with Lumba on this. It all points towards Rodgers not wanting him along with him categorically saying we wouldn't sign him. Then there's the Remy medical failure too.

For me, he's a good player in the wrong team. We play a way that he doesn't fit and we shouldn't really change that to accommodate just him. That's not his fault though.

I personally think he'll be gone in the summer along with lambert and Borini. Just hope Rodgers is allowed to bring in the players he wants this time.


I am sure Borini and Lambert were his signings


Yep that was pointed out to me. Don't get the point though as all managers buy players who don't work out. Just because he signed them doesn't mean he won't sell them.

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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
This article is an 'interesting read' in that it's one possible spin to put on things. But by no means is it a definitive account of Balotelli's time with us.

The fact is when he has played he hasn't been very good (in general). Rodgers has been odd in not giving him time after he's scored but the fact is he is lazy on the pitch. When he's bothered he runs about, but he's never bothered for long. He needs a particular type of team. That team isn't us.

Though it is true that Rodgers is clearly distancing himself from Balotelli and making the point Mario is not his signing. Which seems childish as I do think he has something to offer as a player. But then again the absolute age of time Rodgers took to find a system to fit any of our players this season may mean that actually he doesn't know how to accommodate players yet. Could be a lack of experience.


He may need a particular type of team but throughout his career he has never yet managed to find that team.


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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Fantastic read imo, taking no responsibility off Mario but also taking an in depth look at BR's poor handling of affairs.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/03/always-alternative-view-mario-balotellis-liverpool-career/


Sorry, didn't find this article interesting, it's just gossiping. Balotelli has been poor even when he tried not to be lazy, buying him was a mistake and this was not a surprise to me. He was bought to score goals and was given the opportunity at the beginning of the season.
fair enough, i just dont understand why, if you don't find it interesting, you would comment on the topic at hand. Either way, i found it very interesting and i feel quite accurate in many aspects. This is a forum after all, all about opinions and well, gossip.


Well, I think that Balotelli was given his chance, and if ever he is not getting Rodgers' help or support, it is because he doesn't deserve it anymore. Some people are trying too hard to sympathise with him (the guy who wrote this article) he is probably just not good enough anymore, having lost confidence. I also don't think that he cannot play alone upfront, he is no Lambert as he is quick and can dribble ok. His problem is that he just wants to get the ball at his foot instead of making the required effort to run in empty space making the call. Yes, he is tracking back and putting pressure more than before, but he has all the attributes to play like Sturridge for example instead of waiting for the pass. The gist of the article is that Rodgers is not helping him enough, though this can be true now, IMO, he got all the support he needed at the beginning of the season. So in my opinion, this article is a at least a poor analysis.


To be honest the whole team was poor at the start of the season. Defence was awful, goalkeeper was awful, midfield was awful and weren't chipping in with any goals. Balotelli was upfront as a lone striker for an awful team behind him. On those terms the whole starting 11 should have been benched.

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Exactly, which is something brought up in the article yet conveniently ignored by some.


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He has raw talent but that's where it ends he will get the odd goal win the odd game but anything expecting to rely on him in the normal fashion is I fear going to be very disappointed


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Exactly, which is something brought up in the article yet conveniently ignored by some.


If Balotelli was delivering the goods, there is no reason why he would be in the current position. Our defence was awful, definitely, but it was like that even last season. It looks to me that he hasn't been doing what his manager wanted him to do even if IMO he had the qualities to do it. Sterling was played as a centre forward because he was running into space which has been typical of us last season. Balotelli has all the skills to do the same except the right attitude because running into space is hard work and getting tired for nothing most of the time, it's easier to wait for the ball which he prefers by a mile

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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Exactly, which is something brought up in the article yet conveniently ignored by some.


Not ignored. It just doesn't overshadow everything else that you have chosen to ignore?

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for feck sake this thing is a joke..mario is a joke.. mourinho said he was unmanageable , mancini used to have fisty cuffs with him, his ac milan manager said his squad was better off without him, his national coach publicly lamented taking him to the world cup and now BR is the one publicly hating him..jesus is everyone wrong but mario? has the world gone mad. he had a chance here and was crap and showed his usual crappy ego driven i need attention attitude. he thinks he his flyod mayweather or something, he is not all there imo. BR signed him thru ego , thought he could get the best of him(his best is still not good enough imo) , remember BR talks a lot of sh1te and after the spurs game he was bigging himself up talking about how he changed mario into defending at corners and stuff.. then reality finally hit home after 10 straight games of nothing and out of most trophies

lets just hope BR learns from this and we sell him and move on.

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Originally Posted By: EMP
for feck sake this thing is a joke..mario is a joke.. mourinho said he was unmanageable , mancini used to have fisty cuffs with him, his ac milan manager said his squad was better off without him, his national coach publicly lamented taking him to the world cup and now BR is the one publicly hating him..jesus is everyone wrong but mario? has the world gone mad. he had a chance here and was crap and showed his usual crappy ego driven i need attention attitude. he thinks he his flyod mayweather or something, he is not all there imo. BR signed him thru ego , thought he could get the best of him(his best is still not good enough imo) , remember BR talks a lot of sh1te and after the spurs game he was bigging himself up talking about how he changed mario into defending at corners and stuff.. then reality finally hit home after 10 straight games of nothing and out of most trophies

lets just hope BR learns from this and we sell him and move on.

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Maybe Rafa could get the best out of Mario wink sleep


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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
It is strange that Mario gets dropped after a strong game and a couple of goals. Borini hasn't played since he scored. Lambert has featured little since his goal. THIS TELLS ME THAT BR DOESN'T RATE ANY OF THEM AND PREFERS STERLING AND STURRIDGE FOR THEIR PRESSING ABILITIES. Sturridge has been so poor lately that he didn't deserve to be ahead of Mario off the bench - but BR has his quirks in that regard. As long as we win it doesn't matter - but once we lose he'll be questioned.

That bit I highlighted there Kop, is the most intelligent assessment in this debate of why Rodgers has virtually given up on Balotelli. He either can’t or won’t play the pressing game and the pressing game is what Rodgers wants to play, and as you said thats what he gets from Sterling and Sturridge. It explains why he also has been selecting Markovich and Lallana despite their lack of end product, they press the ball, Balotelli won’t or can’t play that game, and if I was in Rodgers shoes, I’d be doing exactly what he is doing, i.e select the players that play the game the way I want them to.

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