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I think some people are missing the point about the danger of standing. I remember being in the Kop & when all the crowd moved & someone fell over they were reliant on people around them picking them up. What if they couldn't pick them up like Hillsborough.

The point is "what if". If the situation is not there, then it cannot happen. I know some people would like to be in the Kop like the old days to see what it is like, but for your own sakes it is not worth it. Injuries were very common & liabilities nowadays would also leave the club open to claims.

The best thing people should do if they want to experience something like the Kop is to swim over somewhere like Niagara Falls. You would get the same thrill & with a bit of luck come out alive.

I believe standing at Anfield will not happen within the next 100 years.

i voted both yes and no....no offense simmon theres a logic error in the poll

I find that idea quite offensive considering the Hillsborough affair remains unresolved. I won't be voting for them muppets then..

i am with you scanner - only an idiot thinks the problems at hillsborough were one offs - i can always remember the family coming him with bruises, cuts etc when i was too young to go in the kop ..... i can remember me mam having to run onto the pitch to escape escalating problems and refusing to go to another game after fences were introduced

oh and kopite you need to get in the real life if you think violence at matches has gone and that firms are no longer 'cool' thanks to all the ridiculous films and books, firms are considered cooler than ever ..... the west ham fans i did know, i no longer bother to deal with them after this incident, after playing spuds were far more interested in the running battles going on between the fans than the fact they got beat ..... all they were talking about was that they may have lost the match but they won the fight afterwards .... hooliganism has not gone away nor have the police got any kind of handle on it - ffs you only have to stand outside any pub or club on a friday or saturday night to see hooliganism is everywhere in this country

it is not safe to reintroduce standing - it never was safe and never will be safe, the problems that existed have not been dealt with ........ the surges forward when a goal is scored etc those things are part and parcel of it and you can't stop them unless you make people sit down

i miss standing at games and although there is a big safety issue that would need to be resolved i think most fans would agree that they would rather stand at matches.
i know that hillsborough was a huge disaster but that wasn't just down to fans standing.if the amount of fans allowed into each standing section are managed correctly and the correct barriers are in place i dont see a problem.
clubs that are in the 3rd tier of football are currently allowed standing areas.

im not in favour of it, but with that said, its succesfully done on Hill 16 in Croke Park. i bring my daughter up there, not as bother.

violence at matches has all but gone. how many times have you seen trouble inside any ground in recent years?

what little trouble there is,is normally well away from the ground and is nothing compared to what you can see any weekend in and around our pubs and clubs.


all seater stadiums havent solved the hooligan problem,tougher policing has. only last month 12 sheff wed fans were jailed for between 2 and 4 years for a bit of a fight on a train! yet you can get drunk,drive your car and kill someone and only get that amount of jail term!

the authorites always wanted seating because they wanted a bettter class of fan inside our grounds. working class fans are trouble in their eyes. i remember in the 80's coventry went all seater,it lasted about 18 months as visiting fans ripped the seats out regularly and used them as missiles! hillsborough gave the authorities their excuse to forcibly bring in all seater grounds.

all seates do is give you a particular spot where to go,unless of course you go to luton and they have unreserved seating whih leads to all sorts of problems!

standing can be safe if it's policed properly and the stand is designed so it's safe. i stood on the kop and other terraces throughout the 70's and 80's. i was pushed and shoved arounf,there was fighting around me, but i never fell over. never saw anyone else fall over either. oh and i never saw anyone having a wee on someones leg! myths,lies and exaggeration!

seats wont come back because we live in a health and safety led society. you only have to look at the recent air traffic ban to see that. you only have t look at how they impose ridiculously low speed limits on our roads to see that....but that's another argument!

i have seen trouble inside matches on numerous occasions this season - wet sham v spuds the fighting started in the ground for instance .... nothing has changed other than the coverage ..... you still see players being bombarded with missiles at almost every game ..... fights still break out - remember millwall v (i think) wet sham? cup game earlier in the season

you've been reading too many books trepie. anyway if you've seen so much fighting that just proves seats don't solve hooliganism. so let's have standing!

reading too many books? i saw it on the telly not in a book ... i wouldn't waste my time reading about some [oops] of a hooligan making money off the back of being scum!

seats keep people apart and make it easier to break up any fights ...... standing means a fight breaks out and everyone is forced to move in a mass scrum - that is far more dangerous, people falling down steps, being crushed in the midst .... you need to take off your rose-tinted glasses and realise that it wasn't better in the old days, just different