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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
everton still need 40 points they only have 22 niot safe by a long chalk and they will go out to kiev plus one thing is certain i would not want liverpool travelling to war torn ukraine .


Everton have 28 points and not 22.

They need 4 more wins to be absolutely safe.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975


Because we have a decent squad of players and a decent manager. We've had an up turn in form lately and as we've seen with Bradford knocking out your beloved Maureen, anything can happen in cup competitions.

However unlikely you want to tell yourself it was, while we were in it we had a chance to win it. Nothing deluded in that thinking.



The only thing decent about the squad is the price we paid for it and the only thing decent about Rodgers are his teeth.

Liverpool are mediocre with the very occasional flash of brilliance.

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Originally Posted By: evans09

Progressing -
Everton
Ajax
Zenit
Wolfsburg
Villarreal
Napoli
Brugge
Roma

Napoli and Wolfsburg are the favourites for me.


I would expect Sevilla or Villarreal to challenge although Sevilla won it last year and it's rare for a team to win consecutive European competitions!

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
everton still need 40 points they only have 22 niot safe by a long chalk and they will go out to kiev plus one thing is certain i would not want liverpool travelling to war torn ukraine .


Everton have 28 points and not 22.

They need 4 more wins to be absolutely safe.
are they certs to get 4 more wins , seeing that they have only won 6 all season .

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I think most were happy with the team put out for this. It was the game plan that disappointed me. I understand playing an away leg a goal up. First instinct is to hold on to what you've got but we aren't Chelsea and we always look vulnerable when we give up the ba and sit deeper.

I couldn't see us conceding 3 in this game under any circumstances and personally, in Brendan's position I'd have been coming out hard and trying to force an early goal before playing our usual game with the balance of defence and attack.
We aren't a defensive side that can sit back and counter fast and effectively. We had our moments last year but on the back foot we look vulnerable.
Moreno was fantastic but I'd have preferred to see Manquillo and Ibe from the off. I thought he was very good early in the season and deserved more chances though coming into the game he did wouldn't have filled the young guy with confidence.

Only changes would have been Manquillo > Moreno and Lallana > Sturridge. It was a solid team and the tie should have been well over before full time.


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Originally Posted By: evans09
I think most were happy with the team put out for this. It was the game plan that disappointed me. I understand playing an away leg a goal up. First instinct is to hold on to what you've got but we aren't Chelsea and we always look vulnerable when we give up the ba and sit deeper.

I couldn't see us conceding 3 in this game under any circumstances and personally, in Brendan's position I'd have been coming out hard and trying to force an early goal before playing our usual game with the balance of defence and attack.
We aren't a defensive side that can sit back and counter fast and effectively. We had our moments last year but on the back foot we look vulnerable.
Moreno was fantastic but I'd have preferred to see Manquillo and Ibe from the off. I thought he was very good early in the season and deserved more chances though coming into the game he did wouldn't have filled the young guy with confidence.

Only changes would have been Manquillo > Moreno and Lallana > Sturridge. It was a solid team and the tie should have been well over before full time.



Spot on with the conceding 3 bit. That was never going to happen. I was very disappointed that we could not get the one goal which would have put this to bed early. Just like other European games we were just not ruthless enough at home. Even v RM we could have been 2 up before they scored. We have played dreadful in Europe this season against teams we would have trounced last season.

I have a feeling that we are going to be like City for the next couple of seasons getting knocked out of CL early due to teams enjoying Anfield too much. If we cannot dominate Besiktas, Basle, Young Boys, Hearts, Anzhi, Udinese and Zenit how long before we can scare PSG, Bayern, any Spanish club, Juventus, Monaco etc?

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