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I agree the FA, Government and tv networks are all greedy and corrupt, which is exactly why they wont allow their cash cow, the PL, fall apart or break away..

If people choose not to pay (which they are doing) they wont have much choice. You guys only see the immediate statistics or information on the web with all due respect here on the ground its different and despite what you perceive we are not all rich in england. I can only speak of what I see and hear around me maybe there are millions of people I never see delighted to spend unlimited amounts of money on football just I have not met them yet. Never confuse what is happening to what will happen.

Jesus Stan, we are not morons, we do not live in mud huts, we know not everyone in England is rich, but the fact is, the average attendances are imcreasing and the TV networks are willing to pay more and more for the broadcast rights for the future and now. That means it is worthwhile to them, trust me they are not doing it to make a loss, but to turn a healthy profit.

You of course know all this but i suspect you are just trying to either wind others up or be controversial or whatever.

Tv deals getting bigger, stadiums expanding, marketing revenue increasing, new markets in Asia and America growing rapidly.... What does that spell to you? It most certainly doesn't spell "the PL is falling apart or about to fall apart"

A few years ago Manchester United had a huge waiting list for season tickets now you can buy them on demand and the club offers discounts and advertises in the local press so do city and everton and perhaps other premiershio clubs. The financial press asserted that sky had massively over bid on the last tv deal currently it's £600 a year for premiership football in the UK the papers speculate that will increase to £900 no doubt that will increase revenue but not enough to cover costs. So we have a situation where the main sponsor is making a loss and fans are starting to desert or cut back on the huge costs if following their team either tv or at the stadium or both. I never said premiership football is falling apart but on its current trajectory it has no long term future at the level it's at.

So I am deluded yet the prices are what they are, the attendances are rising, the TV deals are rising and the markets are expanding. Yet I am the deluded one.

Sure, if by deluded you mean correct and backed up by hard evidence and figures.

You obviously have not had the decency to assimilate the post I made and resort to name calling you are better than that.

I wasn't talking to you, nor did I call you any name..why are you insulting me?

No I am not insulting you yes I know prices are increasing believe me I know but you are missing the point what we are talking about is the underlying shift would you ? could you ? pay £900 a year just to watch premiership football on TV £850 for a season ticket my points about manchester (the biggest club in england) are valid as is sky overpaid on the new deal. What we are seeing is extracting more from the same people yes there is expansion overseas but that is not reflected in prices for the home market which is seeing crippling increases on ordinary people the home market is not expanding the sky product is the same and people will not bear a 50% increase.

Stan, mate, take a deep breath...have a cuppa. I agree with all those points you just made. No one is denying that. The debate was about sixties post that we could soon see a breakaway European league. I say that will not happen in the forseeable future that's all. The FA won't allow it, the government won't allow it. They stand to lose too much. They would much rather reduce ticket prices by 70% then lose their customers completely.

I guess you maybe didn't read all the posts and misunderstood the discussion. All I am saying is, we won't be seeing a breakaway league any time soon. As far as the ticket prices being lowered, I can see a need for it and i can see it happening, but not drastically.