germany doesn't have a problem with firms like the UK does .... there is no such thing as safe standing areas anyway, they are safeR than other standing areas but they are not safe .... it's not the standing that improved footie - it was the fact you could choose WHERE you stood, so you could stand with your mates instead of being sat the other end of the row ...... standing itself is crap - you come out most times smelling of [oops] coz no one can get out for a slash ...... it was the right decision to abolish it at the time and it is still the right decision now
trepie, germany does have the firms that the uk has,make no mistake about that. just that like the uk the police have got a grasp on it at the moment. standing hasnt abolished hooliganism,better and tougher policing has.
you sound like you're blaming hooliganism for hillsborough although the fences were one of the main factors and we all know why they were introduced.
as for terracing encouraging fans to wee on each other.....i've never seen or felt that on the kop or any other terrace in the land.
the old tales of celebrity fans are nothing more than exageration and at worse lies!
back to hooliganism...it's faded out because it's not fashionable anymore,simple as that. the older lads have packed up because it's not worth the jail time ie minimum 3 years for a fight, and they've got responsibilities. the younger generation would sooner be in a street gang where you can wear a hoodie,get drunk and kick someone to death and only get 2 years at most!
