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Incidently one thing missing from the post is manchester United are number two behind Real Madrid. And we are ninth ! Get the champagne out
champagne is not fsg's style. i think they would buy us some 2015 wine and let it mature and then maybe open it in 20 years time when it's worth more " open sell it in 20 years time when it's worth more" 
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9th is better than our recent accomplishments 'deserve', and cudos to the work on improving our commercial revenue. Obviously I'm biased but we are a special club, we've had a massive world wide fan base despite not winning much compared to other European giants in the last 20 years, and so we can expect to be a touch unexpectedly high. We will never (short of something drastically changing) raise to the top 3-5 because you need success to do that and we don't have sugar daddy owners.
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And how many League / Cup titles have we won recently?
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I agree duncan best of the rest is all we can achieve these days. They have increased sponsorship ten fold they seems a lot is that corect and what is the baseline to measure that against ? Also again I woud imagine other premiershio clubs have increased sponsorship also
Incidently one thing missing from the post is manchester United are number two behind Real Madrid. And we are ninth ! Get the champagne out That United is second is nothing new though, in fact they have been first as well. I am not sure that we were ever top 4 in terms of revenues. I am sure we have the possibility of competing with both Chelsea (because of FFP) and Arsenal once the stadium capacity is increased while City are cheating their way out of FFP, otherwise our revenues would be higher than them. For that we need also need to have a manager who can win trophies and can have a decent purchases record.
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9th pretty good when considering the size of the stadium and We were not in Europe at all at the period these figures reflect. Plus Man City and PSG have artificially high revenue due to having massive sponsorship from their own owners (or cousins, brothers, uncles or whoevers companies).
Surprised Arsenal are so low down. Maybe not so well run as people seem to suggest
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From what I can see FSG have increased our sposorship revenue ten fold Stan - the money has clearly been there for players also.. it's more the strategy and the type of players we've been targeting that have held us back. As for growing up with the great teams of years gone by Stan.. football has changed so much, both on and off the field, it's almost unrecognisable  We can't compete with the cities & chavs - Utd to an extent also... in all fairness only a handful of clubs in world football as a whole can. Excluding the rich kids, we are up there with the best of the rest.. Best of the rest, oh dear how the mighty have fallen! Best of the rest reminds me of that line: "when he was up he was up, and when he was down he was down, but when he was in the middle, he was neither up nor down". And here we are suspended in the middle, with little prospect of going up and every prospect of going down! However FSG won't mind too much as long as the loot keeps rolling in, what surprises me though, is the extent to which some fans are prepared to accept and even defend these policies.
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From what I can see FSG have increased our sposorship revenue ten fold Stan - the money has clearly been there for players also.. it's more the strategy and the type of players we've been targeting that have held us back. As for growing up with the great teams of years gone by Stan.. football has changed so much, both on and off the field, it's almost unrecognisable We can't compete with the cities & chavs - Utd to an extent also... in all fairness only a handful of clubs in world football as a whole can. Excluding the rich kids, we are up there with the best of the rest.. Best of the rest reminds me of that line: "when he was up he was up, and when he was down he was down, but when he was in the middle, he was neither up nor down". And here we are suspended in the middle, with little prospect of going up and every prospect of going down! However FSG won't mind too much as long as the loot keeps rolling in, what surprises me though, is the extent to which some fans are prepared to accept and even defend these policies. Well, we have fallen from grace so i'm not sure what you are objecting to.
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From what I can see FSG have increased our sposorship revenue ten fold Stan - the money has clearly been there for players also.. it's more the strategy and the type of players we've been targeting that have held us back. As for growing up with the great teams of years gone by Stan.. football has changed so much, both on and off the field, it's almost unrecognisable We can't compete with the cities & chavs - Utd to an extent also... in all fairness only a handful of clubs in world football as a whole can. Excluding the rich kids, we are up there with the best of the rest.. Best of the rest reminds me of that line: "when he was up he was up, and when he was down he was down, but when he was in the middle, he was neither up nor down". And here we are suspended in the middle, with little prospect of going up and every prospect of going down! However FSG won't mind too much as long as the loot keeps rolling in, what surprises me though, is the extent to which some fans are prepared to accept and even defend these policies. Well, we have fallen from grace so i'm not sure what you are objecting to. Everyone falls Darcus, it's all about how you get back up again that defines you, or should we just accept a horizontal status and stay down forever? Well that's not for me, hence my objection. Thought you would have more self esteem and ambition for our great club than meekly accept such a future.
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From what I can see FSG have increased our sposorship revenue ten fold Stan - the money has clearly been there for players also.. it's more the strategy and the type of players we've been targeting that have held us back. As for growing up with the great teams of years gone by Stan.. football has changed so much, both on and off the field, it's almost unrecognisable We can't compete with the cities & chavs - Utd to an extent also... in all fairness only a handful of clubs in world football as a whole can. Excluding the rich kids, we are up there with the best of the rest.. Best of the rest, oh dear how the mighty have fallen! Best of the rest reminds me of that line: "when he was up he was up, and when he was down he was down, but when he was in the middle, he was neither up nor down". And here we are suspended in the middle, with little prospect of going up and every prospect of going down! However FSG won't mind too much as long as the loot keeps rolling in, what surprises me though, is the extent to which some fans are prepared to accept and even defend these policies. We're not quite suspended in the middle (yet) closer to a prem second tier with the likes of Arsenal.
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No one is happy for us not to be competing at the top, and it's not a case of adjusting our ambitions. You just need to be realistic about our status or you'll be un necessarily devestated every year. FFP will make the rich clubs richer and the rest will be settling for scraps. No opinion expressed...that is simply a fact.
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