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The date of the article is before the summer window so that will explain that

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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Originally Posted By: MARKOVIC
So Wilk said that we are being careful about FFP, so I looked into it further...

In summary we are not under threat for FFP, however for us FSG haters read this...

"So, despite losing £83m over three seasons, Liverpool can expect to have no sanctions imposed at the end of the 2014/15 UEFA campaign. However, I should point out that to pass FFP, Liverpool’s owner will still need to inject hard cash to cover losses made over the three seasons. For Liverpool, this means the owner needs to put his hand in his pocket and inject around £44m by 31 December 2014. This can’t be done via a loan and if he doesn’t do this, Liverpool could well face a UEFA ban in 2015/16. However there is no reason to believe that he won’t convert the required £44m of debt into equity"

Basically what this means is, the rest of the Suarez money has been used instead of John putting his own money into paying the losses...

#FSGOUT


Nowhere does is state that the Suarez money was spent on this....are you aware of how much we spent last summer. What we need to understand is that FFP encompasses not only traansfer fees but wages included in the contract too.

I understand your point if view, and I can accept you not liking the owners, that's fine, but posting this and claiming that this is where the Suarez money went , AS A FACT, is just really silly. It is unfounded, without so much as a shred of evidence to back it up.

Furthjermore, even if this were true, what we are saying is that, Liverpool used the money it generated form sales to cover a debt created by the club. there is nothing wrong with tha, as a matter of fact, that is how it should be done. We shouldn't expect a sugar daddy to pull out 50 mil from his own pocket to cover our debt every few years...I know i wouldn't...


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Who's actually been banned from the CL over failure to follow the guidelines?

If we fail to qualify (which looks likely) what happens then?


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Belgrade were banned from what I remember, have no idea what happens if you fail to qualify... I think that leaves you at the mercy of the english f.a ???
Mind you, i'm sure uefa will have something to say about it if you find yourself in the europa league smile

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It's not just CL we might be banned from though.

It covers all European cup competitions.

Great - then we'll not have to play in that sad Europa League! laugh

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Several clubs were banned including Red Star Belgrade...city were fined 50 million and had to reduce their European squad...so even if we didnt get banned, you can see how a 50 million euro fine could affect further transfer activity for us. That's a lot of money.

FFP is has its pros and cons, but what is worrying is that the big clubs like city and PSG get off with hefty fines where FIFA can make money off them, whereas those smaller clubs that aren't even worth 50 mil let alone able to pay such a fine, they get disqualified.

The rules don't seem to be the same for all involved.


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Everyone is being careful about FFP, even Chelsea. They want that Colombian fella but will have to reportedly sell Salah and Schurle first. Plus, FSG have said that the club should be self sufficient so if that is where the money has gone then why the surprise?

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Originally Posted By: MARKOVIC
So Wilk said that we are being careful about FFP, so I looked into it further...

In summary we are not under threat for FFP, however for us FSG haters read this...

"So, despite losing £83m over three seasons, Liverpool can expect to have no sanctions imposed at the end of the 2014/15 UEFA campaign. However, I should point out that to pass FFP, Liverpool’s owner will still need to inject hard cash to cover losses made over the three seasons. For Liverpool, this means the owner needs to put his hand in his pocket and inject around £44m by 31 December 2014. This can’t be done via a loan and if he doesn’t do this, Liverpool could well face a UEFA ban in 2015/16. However there is no reason to believe that he won’t convert the required £44m of debt into equity"

Basically what this means is, the rest of the Suarez money has been used instead of John putting his own money into paying the losses...

#FSGOUT




That may well be true but £44m is peanuts and they are not giving the money away to Liverpool FC they OWN liverpool fc they are just shoring up the balance sheet I despair when I read posts like this. John Henry's goal is to sell liverpool at a profit they just need to keep the asset ticking over until they do rather as you would repair your house.


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Surely to sell at a profit they would have to increase the value of the club, which surely, would be a good thing for LFC, because you don't increase the value by becoming less successful and less popular and lowering demand...


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You'd think if we finally (ever!) won the league again they'd be able to cash in handsomely.

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