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Originally Posted By: Duncan_Donut
Have to agree to disagree I guess... I have nothing against Dudek by the way.

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I disagree....

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Interesting opinion, but I suspect it is formed due to short term memory?

At his best, Reina was good - very good in fact. But Dudek on top form was simply sensational. I remember very clearly thinking he was a world beater but never quite had that same feeling for Reina, even though he played behind a better defence.


champions league final he was off the scale but remember he was on his way out at the time and why was that? because of his poor form. Reina was better in my opinion but Dudek will be forever (right so) in folklore because of that final


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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: Duncan_Donut
Have to agree to disagree I guess... I have nothing against Dudek by the way.

If I could make a poll, I would smile



I disagree....

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It's agreed then laugh

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Interesting opinion, but I suspect it is formed due to short term memory?

At his best, Reina was good - very good in fact. But Dudek on top form was simply sensational. I remember very clearly thinking he was a world beater but never quite had that same feeling for Reina, even though he played behind a better defence.


champions league final he was off the scale but remember he was on his way out at the time and why was that? because of his poor form. Reina was better in my opinion but Dudek will be forever (right so) in folklore because of that final


Actually, my opinion is based on way before the CL final. Let's not forget, he let in 3 first half goals. ...

For a period of 18-24 months he was by far the best keeper in the world as far as I'm concerned. Yes, his form had dropped and yes it was time that he went but for 'that period' there has been no one like him.

Incidentally, what do we do to our keepers?? Dudek was superb but it all went wrong. Same applies to Reina. Mignolet was deemed to be a great keeper until we got our coaching claws into him. Westervelt initially looked very good and Kirkland was deemed to be the next big GK superstar! It all went pear shaped for them after signing for Liverpool.

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Interesting opinion, but I suspect it is formed due to short term memory?

At his best, Reina was good - very good in fact. But Dudek on top form was simply sensational. I remember very clearly thinking he was a world beater but never quite had that same feeling for Reina, even though he played behind a better defence.


champions league final he was off the scale but remember he was on his way out at the time and why was that? because of his poor form. Reina was better in my opinion but Dudek will be forever (right so) in folklore because of that final


Actually, my opinion is based on way before the CL final. Let's not forget, he let in 3 first half goals. ...

For a period of 18-24 months he was by far the best keeper in the world as far as I'm concerned. Yes, his form had dropped and yes it was time that he went but for 'that period' there has been no one like him.

Incidentally, what do we do to our keepers?? Dudek was superb but it all went wrong. Same applies to Reina. Mignolet was deemed to be a great keeper until we got our coaching claws into him. Westervelt initially looked very good and Kirkland was deemed to be the next big GK superstar! It all went pear shaped for them after signing for Liverpool.


Peter Cech in his prime, Van der saar in his prime, Buffon in his prime, Casillas in his prime... there were plenty of keepers (a shedload more I haven't named) that were better than Dudek at that point in time. You've completely flawed your argument with that one comment right there.

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No flaw in my argument - it's just an opinion.

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
No flaw in my argument - it's just an opinion.


Just a flaw in your opinion wink

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Oliver Khan was still a better keeper at that point in time - even Jens Lehman and his antics was a better keeper... he did some pretty funny shitt, but a better keeper than Dudek all the same.

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I can't remember Dudek ever being best in the league let alone best in the world. At least (arguably) Reina was the best in the PL at one point.

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