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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
With Suarez gone and now Stevie G too, what is left to persuade developing stars like Sterling to sign long term contracts? Why would an established stars or a potential star chose us over another club?

Does BR have enough of a reputation to swing things our way? I suspect not. Maybe he needs help from a figure recognised throughout Europe - someone who can attract talent to the club.


I see what you're saying there.

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even I didn't realise what I was saying! shocked ... the spooks will be after you for your decoding skills grin


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Originally Posted By: derek
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
With Suarez gone and now Stevie G too, what is left to persuade developing stars like Sterling to sign long term contracts? Why would an established stars or a potential star chose us over another club?

Does BR have enough of a reputation to swing things our way? I suspect not. Maybe he needs help from a figure recognised throughout Europe - someone who can attract talent to the club.


I see what you're saying there.


AHA.... I like that way of getting the message out.


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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Rodgers didn't want one when he came so can't see him wanting one now.

Personally, I'd scrap the committee and let Rodgers have full control of transfers. See if it really is him 'wasting' our money or not. If he is then sack him. If not leave him alone to get on with it.


It all depends on what the committee does exactly, there is a lot of speculation but nobody really knows. No manager can run transfers alone, he needs a team or a committee. I don't even think it's about players, Lallana, Lovren and even Markovic were much better last season, a manager whose team keeps conceding so many cannot be top. Do you think Leicester had better players on the field than us in our last game? How the hell were they allowed to score 2 ?

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Rodgers didn't want one when he came so can't see him wanting one now.

Personally, I'd scrap the committee and let Rodgers have full control of transfers. See if it really is him 'wasting' our money or not. If he is then sack him. If not leave him alone to get on with it.


It all depends on what the committee does exactly, there is a lot of speculation but nobody really knows. No manager can run transfers alone, he needs a team or a committee. I don't even think it's about players, Lallana, Lovren and even Markovic were much better last season, a manager whose team keeps conceding so many cannot be top. Do you think Leicester had better players on the field than us in our last game? How the hell were they allowed to score 2 ?


That's his major problem the defensive side. I said it when Suarez left, that one of the best ways to replace his goals was to shore up the defence. I like Rodgers but he must see this deficiency?

Maybe the OP question should have been should BR now accept he needs a defensive coach?

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Its perfectly clear we had the better players,cant all the fans see what you saying is so true.How can all those players become so bad at liverpool when they were shining elsewhere.....even those we loaned out (Assaidi,Suso,Shahin,Aspas etc)and sold were and are doing better at other clubs.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Rodgers didn't want one when he came so can't see him wanting one now.

Personally, I'd scrap the committee and let Rodgers have full control of transfers. See if it really is him 'wasting' our money or not. If he is then sack him. If not leave him alone to get on with it.


It all depends on what the committee does exactly, there is a lot of speculation but nobody really knows. No manager can run transfers alone, he needs a team or a committee. I don't even think it's about players, Lallana, Lovren and even Markovic were much better last season, a manager whose team keeps conceding so many cannot be top. Do you think Leicester had better players on the field than us in our last game? How the hell were they allowed to score 2 ?
Because they were better, make that much better, on the day.

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Originally Posted By: Junior
Its perfectly clear we had the better players,cant all the fans see what you saying is so true.How can all those players become so bad at liverpool when they were shining elsewhere.....even those we loaned out (Assaidi,Suso,Shahin,Aspas etc)and sold were and are doing better at other clubs.


I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. I hope it is otherwise shows a worrying lack of awareness about the very basics of football. Just because a player performs well in one country, in one club, in one set of tactics, does not mean he can translate even half of that into a new situation. I mean that really is fundamentals.

Many of our signings, not all but many, despite being solid players for their previous clubs were obviously not going to make the step up, and haven't.

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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: Junior
Its perfectly clear we had the better players,cant all the fans see what you saying is so true.How can all those players become so bad at liverpool when they were shining elsewhere.....even those we loaned out (Assaidi,Suso,Shahin,Aspas etc)and sold were and are doing better at other clubs.


I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. I hope it is otherwise shows a worrying lack of awareness about the very basics of football. Just because a player performs well in one country, in one club, in one set of tactics, does not mean he can translate even half of that into a new situation. I mean that really is fundamentals.

Many of our signings, not all but many, despite being solid players for their previous clubs were obviously not going to make the step up, and haven't.


Well, a lot depends on the manager too. Moyes finished 7th or 8th with a better team that were champions under Fergusson just a season earlier. I was watching United recently and most of Van Galls signings were injured, therefore playing mostly the team Moyes had and they were already better. Look at Terry who was mostly on the bench under Rafa, he is now probably the best CB in the EPL under Jose. This is more of a fundamantal, top managers get the best of of players while poor ones don't. Steping up depends a lot on how they are managed, not always, but very often

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By: Junior
Its perfectly clear we had the better players,cant all the fans see what you saying is so true.How can all those players become so bad at liverpool when they were shining elsewhere.....even those we loaned out (Assaidi,Suso,Shahin,Aspas etc)and sold were and are doing better at other clubs.


I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. I hope it is otherwise shows a worrying lack of awareness about the very basics of football. Just because a player performs well in one country, in one club, in one set of tactics, does not mean he can translate even half of that into a new situation. I mean that really is fundamentals.

Many of our signings, not all but many, despite being solid players for their previous clubs were obviously not going to make the step up, and haven't.


Well, a lot depends on the manager too. Moyes finished 7th or 8th with a better team that were champions under Fergusson just a season earlier. I was watching United recently and most of Van Galls signings were injured, therefore playing mostly the team Moyes had and they were already better. Look at Terry who was mostly on the bench under Rafa, he is now probably the best CB in the EPL under Jose. This is more of a fundamantal, top managers get the best of of players while poor ones don't. Steping up depends a lot on how they are managed, not always, but very often


The moyes example imo is poor, as it's very well reported that the players bad mouthed him and didn't give anywhere near 100 percent. Moyes could have been a tactical genius and it still wouldn't have worked out for him.

Also statistically when Van gaal was using the squad from last season he was fairing no better than moyes in terms of points and wins. I take your point and it does have validity, you just chose incredibly poor examples.

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