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Before i get my head bitten off, before the united game, I to was on the bandwagon.
But please, come on people, even the most ardent BR hater has got to admit, we tore them to fcukin shreds. We ripped them open every time we went forward, creating chance after chance after chance.
Despite their keeper getting MOTM, lets be honest, he made 1 world class save - the rest was poor finishing, and the fact is, had Danny have been playing, we would have got 4/5, even without Suarez.
Sometimes we as fans have got to look at a game independently, and if there ever was one, this was it, you cant blame BR for this one.
To tactically, completely walk all over Giggs and Van Gaal etc, is no mean feat, and whether we like it or not, he did do that. This game, in performance, reminded me much more of last season, aside of the poor finishing. We were constantly on the front foot, creating chances galore whilst defending poorly!
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I want what you smoked yesterday - tactically walked over? Allen was his useless self, Johnson the same and he does what? Lovren is weak and Skrtel remains a liability, Gerrard will never be a DM and is slow as fvck and just cannot be arsed, he'd rather wrestle players with rugby like tackles. Yet this tactically astute mtf took off Moreno and Lallana while we had the possession and threat going forward and replace Moreno with Markovich. Mario should have started, same for Toure his tactics was ass p!ss poor as his team selection.
He cannot leave soon enough and if we take the positives for losing to a poor United side it just defines what we have become. A team stooped history that has been mediocre for decades and will continue to be with this Championship manager and his antics.
Nervous defending and gung-ho attacking blaming everyone except oneself and be cluseles and egotistical with the same rhetoric every game technicians, philosophy, good men, gave their all, could not do more - fvckin clueless dvmbass manager want a bee (Brendan Rogers).
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noun [oops]·trar·i·an \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\. If all else fails say that word outstanding a couple of times. The more you do the more you will believe your own spin.
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Before i get my head bitten off, before the united game, I to was on the bandwagon.
But please, come on people, even the most ardent BR hater has got to admit, we tore them to fcukin shreds. We ripped them open every time we went forward, creating chance after chance after chance.
Despite their keeper getting MOTM, lets be honest, he made 1 world class save - the rest was poor finishing, and the fact is, had Danny have been playing, we would have got 4/5, even without Suarez.
Sometimes we as fans have got to look at a game independently, and if there ever was one, this was it, you cant blame BR for this one.
To tactically, completely walk all over Giggs and Van Gaal etc, is no mean feat, and whether we like it or not, he did do that. This game, in performance, reminded me much more of last season, aside of the poor finishing. We were constantly on the front foot, creating chances galore whilst defending poorly! This is a very naive and shallow way to analyse the game. The difference was quality on the pitch, we had chances, and chances to make even better chances, but didn't take them because of our lack of genuine quality. They had less chances and stuck them away with aplomb because they have players with genuine quality. It's as simple as that. You don't get 'lucky' when you win 3 nil. 1 nil sure, 2 nil maybe but rarely, but 3 nil means you were the better side and executed your plan better than your opponent. In this case they relied on them having more quality in attack than us and they were bang on.
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it was clear as day that Johnson was p!ss poor, Moreno did ok although he got bypassed easily on occasion, but he had Lovren next to him so that says it all. Allen did absolutely nothing and seems to be confused as to his role in the team, Gerrard was bypassed with ease, it took two passes to get through our midfield today and I can guarantee with Lucas sitting in front of that back four we wouldn't have leaked three goals.
Playing Sterling as a lone striker is the most stupid idea ever when he had Borini, Lambert and Balotelli fit. Everyone can see we need two up top, everyone but Rogers. Can cannot be worse than Allen, Gerrad or Henderson.
How the hell do we keep buying these pedestrian, agricultural type players.
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noun [oops]·trar·i·an \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\. If all else fails say that word outstanding a couple of times. The more you do the more you will believe your own spin.
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Br shud of been sacked after the palace defeat ...
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it was clear as day that Johnson was p!ss poor, Moreno did ok although he got bypassed easily on occasion, but he had Lovren next to him so that says it all. Allen did absolutely nothing and seems to be confused as to his role in the team, Gerrard was bypassed with ease, it took two passes to get through our midfield today and I can guarantee with Lucas sitting in front of that back four we wouldn't have leaked three goals.
Playing Sterling as a lone striker is the most stupid idea ever when he had Borini, Lambert and Balotelli fit. Everyone can see we need two up top, everyone but Rogers. Can cannot be worse than Allen, Gerrad or Henderson.
How the hell do we keep buying these pedestrian, agricultural type players. I agree with your assessment of most players, however Moreno was utterly woeful at defending once again, sh!t all to do with how bad Lovren also is, Moreno was individually incredibly poor. The problem is due to us buying a raft of incredibly mediocre players with no real quality, we don't have upgrades for the aforementioned players in any position.
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How the hell do we keep buying these pedestrian, agricultural type players.
Always knew BR was a farmer by trade
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it was clear as day that Johnson was p!ss poor, Moreno did ok although he got bypassed easily on occasion, but he had Lovren next to him so that says it all. Allen did absolutely nothing and seems to be confused as to his role in the team, Gerrard was bypassed with ease, it took two passes to get through our midfield today and I can guarantee with Lucas sitting in front of that back four we wouldn't have leaked three goals.
Playing Sterling as a lone striker is the most stupid idea ever when he had Borini, Lambert and Balotelli fit. Everyone can see we need two up top, everyone but Rogers. Can cannot be worse than Allen, Gerrad or Henderson.
How the hell do we keep buying these pedestrian, agricultural type players. I agree with your assessment of most players, however Moreno was utterly woeful at defending once again, sh!t all to do with how bad Lovren also is, Moreno was individually incredibly poor. The problem is due to us buying a raft of incredibly mediocre players with no real quality, we don't have upgrades for the aforementioned players in any position. A mediocre manager cannot help players to improve he can only get them up to his level and that is where we are at the moment.
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noun [oops]·trar·i·an \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\. If all else fails say that word outstanding a couple of times. The more you do the more you will believe your own spin.
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There were some positives from the game but I can't rely on BR to build on nor replicate them in the next. I thought Mario for non-match fit looked the best he has since joining and Couthino actually put in a decent shift for a change.
To be fair to the OP he clearly stated the defence was poor. Never mind Glenson, if Lovren never plays another game again it will be too soon. Yet again why Toure didn't partner Skrtel I have no idea?
Looking like FSG are frozen in the headlights, the masterplan is blowing up in front of them and the computer doesn't compute. They have know idea how to deal with this mess.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
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it was clear as day that Johnson was p!ss poor, Moreno did ok although he got bypassed easily on occasion, but he had Lovren next to him so that says it all. Allen did absolutely nothing and seems to be confused as to his role in the team, Gerrard was bypassed with ease, it took two passes to get through our midfield today and I can guarantee with Lucas sitting in front of that back four we wouldn't have leaked three goals.
Playing Sterling as a lone striker is the most stupid idea ever when he had Borini, Lambert and Balotelli fit. Everyone can see we need two up top, everyone but Rogers. Can cannot be worse than Allen, Gerrad or Henderson.
How the hell do we keep buying these pedestrian, agricultural type players. I agree with your assessment of most players, however Moreno was utterly woeful at defending once again, sh!t all to do with how bad Lovren also is, Moreno was individually incredibly poor. The problem is due to us buying a raft of incredibly mediocre players with no real quality, we don't have upgrades for the aforementioned players in any position. A mediocre manager cannot help players to improve he can only get them up to his level and that is where we are at the moment. Whilst he is a mediocre to decent manager, he's already helped a number of players to improve so that doesn't quite hold true in the face of evidence. More fitting is that these players are mediocre, and were big fish in small ponds prior to us overpaying for them. in addition they dont fit together, another clear failure of the transfer strategy.
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