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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
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the injury has nothing to do with the sub and there are no facts to ascertain. you would think torres would know if he had an injury or not, he clearly said he wasn't injured and he shook his head in shock at coming off.
he may be playing with an knee knock but most players play with something, he got a whack in the next match and could play if he wanted to but has decided to get ready for the world cup. those are facts.


Surely the fact that he's out for 6 weeks is proof enough that he's injured?

For once stop looking for excuses all the time to blame Rafa I'm sure you'd be taken more seriously then?!


come on murphy be realistic..are we suppose to just ignore the fact that torres had no idea why he was coming off and was shocked, that no mention was made of any injury by rafa or torres. the article you popped up stated he has had a knee complaint all season it said nothing of an injury v birmingham, ...we all can rememb er to whack he took in the first minutes against benfica,but he still played most of the game..facts are he doesn't have an injury ,he has a problem that he is getting fixed now cause the world cup is more important.


What player likes coming off?

He was holding his knee and limping before kick off against Benfica!

Unfortunatley Emp you cant be right all the time.
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Originally Posted By: murph75


I cant wait to see him in charge come August after a summer of having the right amount of money for transfers just so we can ram all the taunts of "the waiter" and other derogatory names that some people think is acceptable to call OUR manager!



no issues with u n other fellow reds wishing him to stay..
ppl might even bear his failures upto December but seeing rafa staying put,being handed hefty quids to waste another year might be too much for those touted as "not that faithful reds" to bear n live with....


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Not that faithfull no but disrespectful upon time yes.

Muj there is a good chance that by Christmas next season we could be in a similar postion but then again we maybe sitting top of the league like we have done in the past.

Don't get me wrong we all should be able to voice our frustrations but why cant we do it in a grown up way?

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Originally Posted By: murph75
Not that faithfull no but disrespectful upon time yes.

Muj there is a good chance that by Christmas next season we could be in a similar postion but then again we maybe sitting top of the league like we have done in the past.

Don't get me wrong we all should be able to voice our frustrations but why cant we do it in a grown up way?


murph no offense but u shud be sure enuff if u have that hell of a blind trust on this man...if u are still 50-50 about this person's mentality n stuff going into the games next season and playing pathetic till Christmas why not give a pre-season m summer window to a new man than wasting further half a season with him

theres no hatred pal.nothing to prove my point or just criticizing for the sake of just argument.come on.everyone has own opinions but such a blind trust wud surely get one tits.even non LFC fan too

and u could we could be that lucky again..to play pathetic and still be in contention for title..last season was a luck just like FA Cup and Istanbul...
Chelsea were in slump last season.shitty were not that strong either how on earth we could be that lucky again ...play pathetic and still hope we will be gifted title... bollox


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Rafa's this Rafa's that! your posts are getting so predictable I can start writing them for you.

He came off against Birmingham and had an ice pack on his knee ( seen on TV)

Before KO against Benfica he's seen holding his knee and limping which is commented on by Graham Taylor ( match commentator )

He's know out for upto six weeks after having an operation on the injured knee in question.

As Rafa would say all these points above are FACTS


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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa


so your saying the only reason wafa took off torres against birmingham was cause he was injured..i would say that is 100% wrong..he would have said so if that were the case..whats happening here is your saying so for him. retrospectively .


Am I the only one who thinks Torres was actually doing nothing that game - I realise he can turn a game on its head in an instant when he is on song - but he was off the boil that day (maybe due to his knee maybe not)

Ngog came on and got in some great positions and should have scored about 3 times easily.

I am not saying here that Ngog is anywhere near the class of Torres but I actually think Rafa was a ciggie paper away from making an excellent decision - he was just let down by Ngog's composure

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Originally Posted By: toneloc
- he was just let down by Ngog's composure




and how many centuries will Rafa take to figure out what player should put on this sacred jersey and who should be kicked out... ????


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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
facts are he kept him on till the benfica match was in the bag. that says all you need to know.


spot on


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Originally Posted By: toneloc
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so your saying the only reason wafa took off torres against birmingham was cause he was injured..i would say that is 100% wrong..he would have said so if that were the case..whats happening here is your saying so for him. retrospectively .


Am I the only one who thinks Torres was actually doing nothing that game - I realise he can turn a game on its head in an instant when he is on song - but he was off the boil that day (maybe due to his knee maybe not)

Ngog came on and got in some great positions and should have scored about 3 times easily.

I am not saying here that Ngog is anywhere near the class of Torres but I actually think Rafa was a ciggie paper away from making an excellent decision - he was just let down by Ngog's composure




Woudnt bother Tone because people only see what they want to see. Any other manager making that decision would have been called sensible for taking off his main striker who was carrying a knock and had done little all game.


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It was Rafa and his priorities, and sorry to say but European games are always first in his priorities, the premier league comes second, whatever the situation


good u being blunt..theres nothing wrong u said there pal....

analyzing the stats u provided makes ppl say what we want to think..i doubt it


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