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Fully agree cp, but I’d stress that the mistakes we’ve made in the past and the moneys spent is water under the bridge, as far as I’m concerned. Theres little to be gained by looking backwards and less to be gained by using it to defend the current policies and penny pinching approach, and yet we see too much of that on this forum.
As far as the current regime goes, it can hardly be said that the current manager is responsible for compromising on player choices as some persist in doing. He’s labouring under what you describe as "an overall master plan" that makes no sense in a league as competitive as the PL. He has called publicly for quality over quantity in both of the last seasons to no avail. The buy cheap young potential policy still rules ok in the main, and predictably results in what you describe as “madness”. Yet there are posters who defend and make excuses for this policy and the equally mad decision on the stadium. It must now be clear that current policy is the path towards perpetual mediocrity. What self respecting fan support let alone defend such policies

You don't have to believe if you don't want to but additional seats especially corporate is going to increase our current match day revenue significantly, I think by at least 50%. That would cover a big share if not all the financing for the redevelopment. Of course a new stadium will generate more revenue, but not enough to cover for the additional costs even over the long time. If that was possible, any sensible investor would have done it. The only owners that could do such a thing is those who have excess capital and want to do it for reasons other than financial as investing in football in today's environment makes no sense, there are much better investments.

This is absolutely false from an economic stand point (regardless of my or your view on what is best for the club). You've said "even over the long time", this is jsut untrue. All the new stadium would mean over redevelopment is a greater initial capital, and would significantly increase revenue. Arsenal have shown how well this can be done.

But arsenal paid for their stadium in record quick time did they not vish ? Is it mortgage free now ? The notion you have to pay for a stadium in a few years I don't get it's a very long term asset

As I said, it much more difficult now to qualify for CL. We are struggling to do it now, how will it be when we will have a huge debt to pay for, we won't be able to even buy the so called cheapies, we will have to become a selling club as Arsenal had been. Until only last season, they were regularly making profits on player transaction if not breaking even or a small deficits. Even if it is longer term than Arsenal the interest will be higher over time as we would be taking longer to pay. Anyway, I don't think we could afford that (without stadium interests payments we have regularly made losses bar perhaps last season), but if you think it's possible so be it.