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Guess Barcelona and Real are one man teams too then considering the amount that Messi and Ronaldo do for them.

Exactly Jammy. No one would level that at them but seems some of our supporters and press want to of us.

Not if Real and Barca still play well without them. We seem to be [oops] without Suarez

Don't recall us ebony sh!t without him last year.

We weren't a one man team, no team that finishes 2nd can be. But our reliance on Suarez was far greater than that of real or barca's on ronaldo or messi respectively. Anyone would miss their best player, but the big teams have quality world class players who can take over from them, we do not.

In addition anyone who thinks Suarez' contribution was limited to the goals who had a hand in creating or scoring is very naive. Physically he tied up 2 or 3 players at anyone one time, mentally the opposition were scared before we even started the game, morale wise our players could look up and see a world class player and it lifted them to above their normal game. Steven Gerrard said he thought his title chasing days were behind him but there was a new momentum with a player of this quality, now they look up and so incredibly mediocre players like Adam lallana, and clearly that's having a hugely detrimental effect on morale, just like a certain top liverpool player said it did after alonso left and was replaced by numerous players of average ability. We never did learn did we.

See I was with you all the way up to the Lalanna bashing again.

Well I'm more than willing to admit it's my opinion and a subjective subject and that you might think lallana is more than an average player. But with the worst chance creation per minutes on the pitch for a player in his position means he hasn't shown that thus far, so my mind hasn't changed from the summer. All to play for and early days though.

Yep you're right. I think he's better than average but no arguing he's not been great. But neither has everyone else so why just single him out?

Because he cost 25 million, is on higher wages than most so we're lead to believe, and I personally think he was a stupid signing and for big money. But again I don't claim that to be fact, just my feeling when I saw we actually bought him, and thus far it seems I'm right, but he certainly has plenty of time to prove me wrong and I would love him to.

But as for singling him out in my post, you're right it didn't need to be him, it could have been nearly any one of our signings in the last 2 or so years (I stress nearly as I can't blame anyone for thinking Lovren for example would have slotted in more comfortably and quickly than he has).

Rarely does a football player slot in effotlessly at a new club . There are exceptions of course but I think our new signings should be given more time.