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Kenny was a very successfully manager for us and made a lot of the signings that went on to be legends at this club e.g. Suarez, so he should be considered as a success. He's won titles, cups. He was a great tactician, good judge of talent and was great at cranking up the mind games. Excellent thank you for informing us. Clearly the sooner we sack Rodgers and instal him as manager the better
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Well it would cut the wage bill Henry would be happy with that You think? Wouldn't it be easier for him to sell everybody and pay himself dividends? Why didn't he not just keep Suarez money but spent more than the proceeds of the sale? Err Vish actually I was not being serious it was what some people refer to as a joke commonly refered to as humour "The quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech"
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Because kenny is no more a manager than I'm am He's won a helluva lot more trophies than you have, Stan. Well they have (to date) not put me in charge of Liverpool FC especially the side from the mid eighties so the jury is out on that one. Well, there must be a reason why they didn't put you in charge, no? Probably all the squad would have committed suicide. He would have sold every single player we have and used the money to build his new stadium.
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Well it would cut the wage bill Henry would be happy with that You think? Wouldn't it be easier for him to sell everybody and pay himself dividends? Why didn't he not just keep Suarez money but spent more than the proceeds of the sale? Err Vish actually I was not being serious it was what some people refer to as a joke commonly refered to as humour "The quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech" Well you are always amusing or comic.
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He would have sold every single player we have and used the money to build his new stadium. I know thats meant to be a joke but reading that just angers me. We should have done that instead of buying dross like Aqulani and Andy Caroll. Just the last couple of windows we have spent atleast 400m nevermind 10 years ago, we could have built a new stadium with that. Give Stan as much stick as you like but he is 100% correct not building a new stadium has set us back and I fear we will never catch up to these modern clubs like Man City and Chelsea.
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This thread shows how much people are polarized around here. Everyone is either a hero or a villain. Following a football club cannot, and should not, be an objective experience. We find it difficult to admit that Kenny was a shyte manager because we remember with reverence Kenny the player. One night in Istanbul guaranteed Rafa legendary status despite the fact that he failed to win us a single Premier League title. Rodgers brought us so painfully close to winning the seemingly impossible prize, but the fact remains that he hasn't won us anything yet, a fact that is unlikely to change in the near future. Some people say that Rodgers should be given time, and I agree, but what no one has bothered to mention is: time to do what? Win the title? How realistic is this ambition in the context of today's financial realities? I know that we came close last season and should have won it, but it would have been a fluke. We should play a waiting game, give Rodgers enough time to see how far he can take us, and pray for some sugar daddy to take over and turn us into a City or a Chelsea, because whether you like it or not, we won't win any tiles otherwise apart from the occasional cup.
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This thread shows how much people are polarized around here. Everyone is either a hero or a villain. Following a football club cannot, and should not, be an objective experience. [b]We find it difficult to admit that Kenny was a shyte manager because we remember with reverence Kenny the player.[/b] One night in Istanbul guaranteed Rafa legendary status despite the fact that he failed to win us a single Premier League title. Rodgers brought us so painfully close to winning the seemingly impossible prize, but the fact remains that he hasn't won us anything yet, a fact that is unlikely to change in the near future. Some people say that Rodgers should be given time, and I agree, but what no one has bothered to mention is: time to do what? Win the title? How realistic is this ambition in the context of today's financial realities? I know that we came close last season and should have won it, but it would have been a fluke. We should play a waiting game, give Rodgers enough time to see how far he can take us, and pray for some sugar daddy to take over and turn us into a City or a Chelsea, because whether you like it or not, we won't win any tiles otherwise apart from the occasional cup. That's why i always stay out of any Kenny debate and ignore anything Stan says about him.
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This thread shows how much people are polarized around here. Everyone is either a hero or a villain. Following a football club cannot, and should not, be an objective experience. We find it difficult to admit that Kenny was a shyte manager because we remember with reverence Kenny the player. One night in Istanbul guaranteed Rafa legendary status despite the fact that he failed to win us a single Premier League title. Rodgers brought us so painfully close to winning the seemingly impossible prize, but the fact remains that he hasn't won us anything yet, a fact that is unlikely to change in the near future. Some people say that Rodgers should be given time, and I agree, but what no one has bothered to mention is: time to do what? Win the title? How realistic is this ambition in the context of today's financial realities? I know that we came close last season and should have won it, but it would have been a fluke. We should play a waiting game, give Rodgers enough time to see how far he can take us, and pray for some sugar daddy to take over and turn us into a City or a Chelsea, because whether you like it or not, we won't win any tiles otherwise apart from the occasional cup. Great post the brutal truth is that unless something fundamental changes at the club and a don't mean the manager it can only be the financing then we are unlikely ever to break out from a second tier premiership club one occasionally knocking on the champions league places and winning the odd cup. Last year might well have been our last real chance at the title we had one of the worlds greatest players in the form of his life and other players at the top of their game plus the last realistic year of the real Steven Gerrard. Plus our rivals imploded. A perfect scenario unlikely ever to be repeated. To break away from what we are we need serious investment starting with the stadium and then progressive high spend on the team within or without financial fair play which is a passing fad anyway.
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In two years he brought Liverpool to their best season in premier league history, scoring the most goals and playing the most attractive football we've seen in years. Henderson was transformed from a passenger into a boss box-to-box player who is now vice captain. And one of the leading assisters in the country. He helped Gerrard reinvent himself as a deep-lying playmaker that got him off the treatment table, and got the best season out of him we'd had in years. He formed one of the most lethal strike partnership that Liverpool have ever had, 50% of which came from a punk kid no one wanted that he picked up for 12 million quid. He is also the only manager to get an entire season out of Suarez without discipline problems since his 2007-8 season at ajax. He got us back into the champion's league, which his predecessors failed to do.
Let's not forget that Rodgers set us back when he arrived, his first season was an absolute disaster, dumped out of cups embarassingly early as well as being embarassed in Europe, barely did any better in the league. Kenny had already lined up Diame to join us, Sturridge was already being touted as well, not to mention Coutinho who was actually advised to FSG by Rafa. I honestly do think that Kenny would have had us in the Champions League that season. Last season was a one off thanks to Suarez, hence why we suddenly look like [oops] now. Who's to say that Surez wouldn't have hit 30 goals per season under Kenny either. Rodgers was not left a [oops] squad, he didn't have to rebuild the squad, he had to buy 2 players and he failed miserably, over £200 million and nearly 3 years later and we're no better off than when Kenny was here. Absolute bull. He got 31 of our 101 goals last season so it wasn't all down to Suarez. And lets not forget the fukking idiot got himself banned for 4 months too so would have played 2 games for us this season. 31 goals a $hit load of assists most of the pens Gerrard scored and created space for other players to score he was worth at least 50 goals last year imo If you want to subscribe to the one man team crap that's your business. But it is crap as the WHOLE team contributed to our season not just one man.
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Yes it was a lot and I'm not saying it wasn't. But to say we were a one man team (not you I know) is completely wrong.
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