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Fair comments but the club still as a top club and we are one of the most expensive in the league to eatch. Ah I hear you say but the club are only reacting to demand. Quite so but how much longer has that got to go ? How much longer are people going to continue to pay top price to watch a club that has self admitted its going nowhere.

It is very frustrating, Liverpool is one of the most famous names in world football but if you compare us to the other famous names eg Real, Barca, UTD, Bayern, Milan.

We play in a stadium just over half the size of theirs. Doesn't really give the impression of a big club. Especially not to the top players and lets face it we haven't had a great team for 25 years. Sure we've had some good teams like 2005, 2009 and last year but I wouldn't say they were great teams, always 2 or 3 players short of being a really great side.

Also the club makes about half of what the top teams do so there is no way we can compete for the very best players without a billionaire owner. Unfortunately I can't see this changing, the stadium expansion is very conservative and long term is going to leave us in the tier just below the top teams along with the likes of Arsenal hoping to finish 3rd or 4th each year

Billionaire owners no longer work either which is why I fear for us as FFP is in place. FFP ensures that you only spend what you earn so having a large stadium is vital and since we don't have one, we are being left behind. The big clubs get bigger while the clubs in poor form get smaller, its that simple I'm afraid.

Unless the billionaire owner was to finance a new stadium that would work the owner would have to take a long term view rather like city's owners this sort of thing does happen Qatar in particular are investing heavily in uk real estate and have more money they knw what to do with £400m would be peanuts. No they are not queuing up but it's nit impossible either as some would have you believe

club is a shambles kp, we're going in circles and fans are getting the pisd ripped out of them, their loyalty binding them to the glaring truth.

jesus if we string a few passes together there's a maypole festival, smacks of desperation.

Damned I'd we do and damned if we don't. We did not make terrible mistakes this summer but we have had an unprecedented amount of injuries which means too many changes Domestically we are unbeaten in 5 and really should have 5 wins, lucky strike against Everton and a missed sitter against hull are the fine margins we play with.

Only markovic has really struggled so far with mario being lambasted for performing no worse than RVP yet nothing said by the media. A stable team for the next 5 games and should start to see more improvements and hopefully sturridge can kick us on. I feel we are no worse than United, arsenal and even City at the moment.

We need to continue this run for another 5 games and see where we are. We are not shocking but just a little flat.

Obviously opinions on player performances are subjective so there is no 'right' answer. But I can't see how you've come to the conclusion only markovic has struggled.

Lallana has created something like 4 chances in hundreds of minutes of premier league football.
Baloteli has missed a number of sitters as you say.
Markovic has been utterly woeful.
Lovren hasn't been half the player he was last year.
Both new full backs have been decent going forward though poor final ball, but have been caught out defensively a few times every game.

Out of the transfer window only Moreno can be said to be performing successfully for the price paid for him. But this is retro spective thinking and analysing performances. The more important factor is that all of this was predicted over the summer as we targeted mostly average players in a scattergun approach that didn't fit our system of play. It was an incredibly stupid strategy that didn't need hindsight to label it so (with the exception of lovren). We aren't that many points wise behind some rivals so all is not lost, but the vision should have been to cement champions league, particularly as our only world class player left, you don't do that with a larger squad of average players, you do that by improving the first team with the 120 million you have. We had such an opportunity to be ahead of our rivals, instead through naive and quite frankly stupid thinking we have gone backwards.

Let me expand on the word 'struggled'

All of the signings have had at least one good game except markovic. This shows there is potential for players to reach a certain level, albeit consistently. Also we have regressed and it's obvious as to why. Losing the worlds 3rd best player is as good a reason as any, never mind sturridge last seasons 2nd top scorer in the league.

Give these new lads a chance to grow and we will be a great team. We have never been able to shop at the top table so why all of a sudden should we be able to now.

1. Didn't replace Suarez
2. Didn't buy a solid DM
3. Sold Reina & for a ridiculously low price.
4. Sold Agger & for a ridiculously low price.
5. Over-spent on mediocre players.

Unfortunately I agree on those three points with the caveat that there is no replacing Suarez.

Sellingn Agger wasn't the worst thing to do. He didn't seem to figure for BR and was always injured. Maybe could've got more for him.

We over paid for Lalanna and Markovic and maybe Lovren. But (Markovic aside) they are good players and far from mediocre. Markovic has the potential to be great which is why we paid what we did but was probably a bit much.