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c'mon guys... why the arguing? whilst we might differ in our opinions as to what our prospects are for this season, we all know what the situation is. i don't thing any of us dsagree on the following:
1. We are light years behind Chelsea and Man City in terms of our squad.
2. Our fiercest rivals can also put out a team that on paper is far superior to ours, at least in terms of the number of world class players they have. Their potential to compete with the top two is greater than ours by a huge distance. One or two good defensive signings should do the trick from them.
3. We are effectively competing for fourth spot. anything higher than that would be punching above our weight and requires luck and/or a touch of genious. I suggest we had both last season.
4. We have signed so many players since BR took over but only one comes to mind as an unqualified success - Sturridge.
I think our differences are around our expectations and assessment regarding our prospects. For this I partly blame FSG & BR for some of the BS they come out with. Either they're incompetent or they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes or we're stupid. It's probably some combination of all three. That's a fair post hard to disagree. I do feel FSG are managing the fans and have been since day one. All owners do this of course but they have been very clever and the small re-development of the ground (which was always their intention) is now seen as a success that's no accident but clever expectations management. I also feel FSG have no intention of competing at the top it's similar sub-optimal in terms of return. Again our expectations have been managed few Liverpool fans covet the title these days just a few years ago we would have been disgusted with finishing fourth
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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c'mon guys... why the arguing? whilst we might differ in our opinions as to what our prospects are for this season, we all know what the situation is. i don't thing any of us dsagree on the following:
1. We are light years behind Chelsea and Man City in terms of our squad.
2. Our fiercest rivals can also put out a team that on paper is far superior to ours, at least in terms of the number of world class players they have. Their potential to compete with the top two is greater than ours by a huge distance. One or two good defensive signings should do the trick from them.
3. We are effectively competing for fourth spot. anything higher than that would be punching above our weight and requires luck and/or a touch of genious. I suggest we had both last season.
4. We have signed so many players since BR took over but only one comes to mind as an unqualified success - Sturridge.
I think our differences are around our expectations and assessment regarding our prospects. For this I partly blame FSG & BR for some of the BS they come out with. Either they're incompetent or they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes or we're stupid. It's probably some combination of all three. That's a fair post hard to disagree. I do feel FSG are managing the fans and have been since day one. All owners do this of course but they have been very clever and the small re-development of the ground (which was always their intention) is now seen as a success that's no accident but clever expectations management. I also feel FSG have no intention of competing at the top it's similar sub-optimal in terms of return. Again our expectations have been managed few Liverpool fans covet the title these days just a few years ago we would have been disgusted with finishing fourth So you think we could have spent more, do you know we are being investigated under FFP rule? I know you don't cate, you just want FSG out, keep waiting I say. One more reason for you to be depressed.
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please... let's not let every thread descend in to an unsavoury exchange between yourself and Stan.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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c'mon guys... why the arguing? whilst we might differ in our opinions as to what our prospects are for this season, we all know what the situation is. i don't thing any of us dsagree on the following:
1. We are light years behind Chelsea and Man City in terms of our squad.
2. Our fiercest rivals can also put out a team that on paper is far superior to ours, at least in terms of the number of world class players they have. Their potential to compete with the top two is greater than ours by a huge distance. One or two good defensive signings should do the trick from them.
3. We are effectively competing for fourth spot. anything higher than that would be punching above our weight and requires luck and/or a touch of genious. I suggest we had both last season.
4. We have signed so many players since BR took over but only one comes to mind as an unqualified success - Sturridge.
I think our differences are around our expectations and assessment regarding our prospects. For this I partly blame FSG & BR for some of the BS they come out with. Either they're incompetent or they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes or we're stupid. It's probably some combination of all three. That's a fair post and I agree. What gets on my tits though is the pointless threads and posts with nothing to back up what they're saying. Just saying we're crap or 'just get a real manager and players' without having anything substantial to back it up is just pointless and I think, for attention or winding up purposes.
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well then don;t read them, have you no self control?
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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well then don;t read them, have you no self control? Why not post them, have you no self control?
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I am happy to stick with Rodgers but it's clear watching city and Chelsea this weekend we have no class and there is no excuse for that after last year we should have pressed forward. Vish is mentioning FFP fair enough but the answer to that is to get our turnover on a par with Man United our current plans give us no chance to do that.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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I am happy to stick with Rodgers but it's clear watching city and Chelsea this weekend we have no class and there is no excuse for that after last year we should have pressed forward. Vish is mentioning FFP fair enough but the answer to that is to get our turnover on a par with Man United our current plans give us no chance to do that. Let me guess what would help that 
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well then don;t read them, have you no self control? Why not post them, have you no self control? its my opinion. you just dont like it, now go play with your mate
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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well then don;t read them, have you no self control? Why not post them, have you no self control? its my opinion. you just dont like it, now go play with your mate Yes it is. And it's my right as part of this forum to reply. As you said yesterday it makes for a good forum. If you don't like it I'm sure there some real managers and players on FIFA you could play with.
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