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Well Man United are struggling to sell out as are most prem clubs and have you seen rugby league games recently ? Both BT and Virgin are jibbing at the costs. Yes there will always be people wanting their fix as you say but things are definitely slowing. I give the example of rugby league because that sport is struggling with ticket prices and sky same thing happening in football to a lesser extent because it's a bigger sport

Well Man United are struggling to sell out as are most prem clubs and have you seen rugby league games recently ? Both BT and Virgin are jibbing at the costs. Yes there will always be people wanting their fix as you say but things are definitely slowing. I give the example of rugby league because that sport is struggling with ticket prices and sky same thing happening in football to a lesser extent because it's a bigger sport

Revenue per seat demand and supply not the words I recall when I first started to go on the Kop or at any time since the last 5 years now it's all we hear. Uniteds stadium us too big or rather probably just the right size at the moment they almost or do sell out for prem games. I am pretty sure if anfield was 76k we would sell out too. I also have no doubt FSG are deliberately keeping capacity low to (as vish would say create the optimum demand / supply ratio) in the language of most of us charge the maximum they can get away with. But you have to ask is thus the optimum long term strategy how many fans will want to or be able to afford £75 a game or whatever stupid figure FSG put it up to. And another thing that about community spirit and fans together ? What us it about wishing such a fate upon those who attend the stadium even if it extracts the optimum price point ? Is that all we care about costing and pricing ? I will tell you one thing I am really glad I saw the real era when Liverpool won things and fans cared about the club community because this and the coming era is crap and nothing to do with us not winning we are just following a cold corporate model

Esso United were struggling with sales when ferguson was in charge and to be fair they treated fans pretty bad with that scheme (still going) when you had to pay for cup games to watch prem games. They also have s scheme where important prem games are taken off you if you don't buy enough cup games. For example say it's vs city and you have advanced paid for the game and you have not bought carling cup say they can remove your access for the city game, Which I think (quite understandably) has hacked fans off plus the price of course. I follow rugby league and go to games (warrington) and yes union has taken a lead but again the price is having an effect and if the game is on sky most stay at home me too Friday night I will be watching at home for the semi vs Wigan

Revenue per seat demand and supply not the words I recall when I first started to go on the Kop or at any time since the last 5 years now it's all we hear. Uniteds stadium us too big or rather probably just the right size at the moment they almost or do sell out for prem games. I am pretty sure if anfield was 76k we would sell out too. I also have no doubt FSG are deliberately keeping capacity low to (as vish would say create the optimum demand / supply ratio) in the language of most of us charge the maximum they can get away with. But you have to ask is thus the optimum long term strategy how many fans will want to or be able to afford £75 a game or whatever stupid figure FSG put it up to. And another thing that about community spirit and fans together ? What us it about wishing such a fate upon those who attend the stadium even if it extracts the optimum price point ? Is that all we care about costing and pricing ? I will tell you one thing I am really glad I saw the real era when Liverpool won things and fans cared about the club community because this and the coming era is crap and nothing to do with us not winning we are just following a cold corporate model

I know of that scheme and yes it is totally unfair but I can't shed one tear for a club who have done that to its fans. It is at the higher end of living within your means isn't it? I mean they could pay 3 of their players a bit less say knock them all down to 200k a week and then charge a little less for fans to get in. It was their choice to do that with the tickets. They have been found out by their own who were always likely to turn on them when they all started wearing them Norwich scarves. How much is it to get into RL games out of interest?

This is the football reality now, a club is like a company that needs to survive in the competitive world and not only on the pitch as it was in your old days. Whether you like it or not is secondary and even if we could probably fill 76k seats, we need to fill it at the right cost, guess work and emotion is not going to work, it's the numbers that is going to make or break.