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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
mybe they just have a more settled squad where more of their players have been playing together for longer.

we have too many new players chucked into the team and the epl together for the first time. given that they're not proven world class quality players, it is no surprise that West Ham, Villa and Man City have all beaten us pretty comfortably.


That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. It's a cliche without any grounds in fact. It's a huge surprise that West Ham and villa beat us comfortably (city are better in every department so that's no surprise). Rodgers chose these players that don't fit the the system and don't have any particular quality about them. They're okay players and some like lallana don't work in the system that worked well last year. Settling in time doesnt account for how bad we were yesterday.

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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
mybe they just have a more settled squad where more of their players have been playing together for longer.

we have too many new players chucked into the team and the epl together for the first time. given that they're not proven world class quality players, it is no surprise that West Ham, Villa and Man City have all beaten us pretty comfortably.


That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. It's a cliche without any grounds in fact. It's a huge surprise that West Ham and villa beat us comfortably (city are better in every department so that's no surprise). Rodgers chose these players that don't fit the the system and don't have any particular quality about them. They're okay players and some like lallana don't work in the system that worked well last year. Settling in time doesnt account for how bad we were yesterday.


if that's the case then we're in much deeper trouble than i thought


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Possession football counts for nothing if you can't score goals. A settled back four is needed and chopping and changing will never help. Sahko should have started, Skrtel should have been on the bench and BR needs to get his head out of his arse and adapt quickly or be another casualty of the managerial chopping block. Our midfield was overrun easily and we could not get in the game in the first half. Drop Gerrard and have Lucas play for the reserves his time is up.
Footballing philosophies aside we need to start winning and find ourselves. It was West Ham and we were sh!te FFS we made Downing look like a star.
The next game can't come quick enough to erase this sh!t stain from my memory.
Luckily most dropped points and we have most of the season left.

Last edited by Maureen; 21/09/14 04:59 PM.

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Originally Posted By: Maureen
Possession football counts for nothing if you can't score goals. A settled back four is needed and chopping and changing will never help. Sahko should have started, Skrtel should have been on the bench and BR needs to get his head out of his arse and adapt quickly or be another casualty of the managerial chopping block. Our midfield was overrun easily and we could not get in the game in the first half. Drop Gerrard and have Lucas play for the reserves his time is up.
Footballing philosophies aside we need to start winning and find ourselves. It was West Ham and we were sh!te FFS we made Downing look like a star.
The next game can't come quick enough to erase this sh!t stain from my memory.
Luckily most dropped points and we have most of the season left.


So if he had dropped SG, who would he have played instead?

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Could've played Lucas at DM with either of Lallana or Markovic starting?

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Could've played Lucas at DM with either of Lallana or Markovic starting?


Lucas? Are you serious? He is probably our worst player right now. Not buying a top central midfielder is going to haunt BR.

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But if you're going to play him that's where he plays. He's the only one we have fit too at the moment.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
But if you're going to play him that's where he plays. He's the only one we have fit too at the moment.


What I meant is we didn't have anybody better than SG in that position yesterday, we should have bought someone proven there, even if we bought Can.

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I agree vish. Think Can will be quality from the little I've seen and heard. Maybe Gerrard should've been put further forward as Lucas was also playing?

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Gerrard will be played until he is injured, to me he is not a DM and his legs are gone. He cannot play every game and definitely cannot be expected to start three games in a row. West Ham played a diamond which we do as well at times to great effect. We could not get started because Gerrard was taken out of the game and Skrtel was not sharp enough plus Mignolet has turned into a liability and reminds me more and more of David "Calamity" James at times. Same happened against Aston Villa re Gerrard. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and while saying that we are not paid boatloads to be a manager either but it is a clear as daylight.

We did not have the squad last season but we are supposed to have it now. Rogers' decision to buy more attacking players and not get any midfield reinforcements in addition to Can in might be his undoing. Brendan Rogers' naivety as a young manager still shines through as well. We lost Suarez and we should have planned for that and the eventuality that we would not start in the same vein as last season. The surprise of quickfire attacks and early goals are gone especially with Sturridge out as well.

Injuries are part and parcel of the game and the manager needs to be tactically aware enough and ruthless enough to cope. We cannot blame the referee or other circumstances here. We were outclassed by a team that should never have been able to do so. Same re Villa.

We had a post on here the other day about opposition analysis but looking at the last game there was no analysis done. Or it was ignored.

With the famed opposition analysis we should have been one up on Sam Allerdyce. Last season we did not have a plan B this season we do but we shoot ourselves in the foot playing to the oppositions strengths. A solution is needed, the team need to do some introspection and Brendan Rogers need to get his head out his arse quickly before this season turns into another huge failure.


Last edited by Maureen; 21/09/14 06:54 PM.

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